I will sign on to this.  This thread would grow WAY too long to discuss all the issues people want to discuss.

I was going by the Eurobarometer poll results. I was wrong though, Turkey and Malta are more religious than Romania, though Romania is still more religious than every European country except those two (and the Vatican of course). And the Romanian Orthodox Church colaborated with the Security (basically the romanian version of the KGB). The other religious cults were persecuted (for example my Catholic great grandmother was forced to convert to eastern orthodoxism because of the government).

@kergeten

Romania more secular than the USA? Lol, hilarious and very false. Does part of the tax money you pay automatically go  to the Chruch in the USA? I think not.

I was referring to the people's mentality, and while the government does have that law it's doesn't do half the shit republicans do in America in the name of religion. Like banning stem cell research, abstinence programs, national prayer day etc.

On the issue of stem cell research (here we go causing this thread to spawn on many more pages): There is NO ban on stem cell research.  What the Bush administration did was refuse to fund EMBRYONIC stem cell research.  There was no issue with general stem cell research  (see this article on a person taking stem cells from their own eye that are healthy, to be able to cure their blindness: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6122757.ece ).  The issue was with embryonic stem cell.  So, you personally believe that since abortion is legal now, and a right, we should be able to harvest all those embryos that were disposed off in abortions in order to find cures for things?  What happens if cures are found?  You don't believe corporations would then pay women to impregnant them and then have abortions, so that they could sell what they harvest?

Ok, onto abstinence programs: You want there to be a society which teaches kids that they aren't able to abstain from sex, because it is too hard to do so?  And another part here is that we are supposed to NOT trust parents with their kids, and how they raise them.  We all know that teens can't say no to sex, so we have to equip them to have sex.  Maybe we should also offer them gun training to, so that they can use a handgun without being able to hurt others.  Since teen gun ownerships and shootings is a problem, and they could hurt themselves from misusing guns, the key is to teach them to use guns.  And schools should do this despite what the parents want.  After all, parents are stupid anyhow, and know less that school officials in ALL areas.

There was a call to end this thread.  If people want to continue, go ahead.  It has little or nothing to do with what the Christian faith is about though.

What do u mean a call to end this thread? No, it's a good thread and you're doing very well explaining the Christian view, richard. Keep up the good job.

While only embryonic stem cell research was banned, in practice it was all banned, that's why rich Americans had to go to china to get stem cell treatment, even though it didn't use embryos, also far more embryos are lost at fertility clinics nationwide than with stem cell research.

As for abstinence programs, they rely on fear and lies, and the only reason they are applied is religious, it's all propaganda bullshit, I kid you not these guys teach children that sex equals murder and suicide (look it up) while completely omitting any kind of actual sex ed, and surprise surprise the states which have these kinds of programs have the highest rate of teen pregnancies. So if anything it's more like telling kids that guns are bad but never teaching them how to use or handle one in any form, even though in this analogy every kid has one, guess what happens? kids get shot.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/09/politics/100days/domesticissues/main4853385.shtml

Mr. Obama's action, before a packed East Room audience, reverses former President George W. Bush's policy on stem cell research by undoing a 2001 directive that banned federal funding for research into stem lines created after that date.

What ban on embryonic stem cell research you refer to?  Since when is not funding something banning something being done? 

As for the second point, if you were to allow parents to have alternatives for their kids, instead of forcing everyone into the same school system (forcing for economic reasons) then you are going to get things you don't like, because religious parents will force non-religious parents to not have their kids get the same teaching.  And on the gun analogy, if parents don't want their kids to have guns, why is the it the job of a state education system to give them guns and teach them about guns?

You know Sweden allows parents to choose what school their kids go to, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDAQWJbEl9U&playnext_from=TL

It is increasingly NOT about Christianity, and there is an excess amount of issues that need to be laid out, in order to answer the question about what involves the Christian faith.  What I saw in this thread is a mix of ridicule of the Christian faith, and individuals on the evangelical side, who want to try to convert people to be Christians in it. 

I will also say, if I am one of the top people to get into the Christian faith on here, this thread has problems.  For answers to the Christian faith, it is a lot better to go elsewhere on the web for that, and ask people who know more.

Maybe, but you bring an interesting angle as an Orthodox.

you are so full of crap. people like you really make me angry. its not the religion that kills people, its the people who kill people, the fanatics. Where does the Jesus say ''Kill every non-Christian''? NOWHERE.

Its the people who produce hate, small minds and death.