Yikes.. Did Nintendo kill your dog or something? :/

Got any sources to back this up?

In the last 2 years, the formula has been:

1. Nintendo tells us how they're the best for an hour with graphs and Iwata wags his finger at the industry.  Then they announce some new games and a 'new app' that the crowd goes off to either flame Nintendo (Wii Music) or is blown away (New Super Mario Bros Wii).

2. Microsoft comes on stage and follows the same pattern of saying they're the best with graphs and charts, talks about Netflix, online gaming and 'market penetration', then shows a bunch of gaming demos (that Sony will later have half the same game demos).  Then one major exclusive is shown at the end as their 'killer app' (last year it was FFXIII).

3. For sony's Bio, see Microsoft, but add a heavy emphasis on 'Home' and 'Blu Ray is the king of Media'.  With most of their conference (after tons of grapgs and 'we're the best) focused on how they're the best device for multimedia (hey....just like with Microsofts conference).  End with some 'killer app' that everyone soon forgets about in a week, just like with MS and Nintendo's conferences.

Frankly, if Nintendo shows of either 3DS or Zelda Wii (or both), they are going to have a LARGE amount of the attention at E3.  And this year, both MS and Sony are going to be doing something completely new..and hard.  They're going to be trying to pass themselves off as the 'hip and edgy' systems like always...while also being the 'console for everyone' like Wii.  AKA, Natal and Move.

Nintendo has the 3DS. They have a very good chance of stealing the show depending on what the 3DS and games entail. I would like a more interesting presentation but they made good ground last year by giving up the stage to some third parties and I believe this year we will see considerable action from both Nintendo and third parties getting up there and showing off their wares for the world.

Except that's a gross exaggeration and blantantly not true at all, if you want to say that the games they show don't appeal to you that's one thing, but going out there to say "one" popular game despite sales of the titleS they show off say otherwise, then just adding to that with the shows boring... it sounds a lot like trolling to me, given your past, and this post not being constructive at all nor adding anything to the thread, it's the only conclusion I can come up with.  Honestly the old rule applies here if you got nothing good to say then don't say anything, you've been irritating people with posts like these and it's just gotten old, I'm trying to be nice here btw, tone it down.

That's perfectly fair, it's just not how I approach E3.

Whether or not you like what Nintendo is doing this generation has nothing to do with some absolute metric of quality, nor with whether or not they're "relevant". They're the most relevant players on the field.

Metroid as an absolute measure of "core" presence on the Wii is fallacious. The average Metroid game sells about ~1.5 million copies or less. Expecting the game to sell over 5 million is unrealistic, unfair, and unreasonable to such a degree that it is nearly ridiculous. Metroid is and has always been a third-tier series for Nintendo, if that.

If you want a proper indicator, look to either Zelda, which is a second-tier series that has handily outsold every PS3 exclusive (and more than that if you count the Gamecube version), or to New Super Mario Bros Wii - a core game that has already tripled and will easily quadruple the current best-selling PS3 exclusive.

More, taking the sales of any game and using that to arrive at some loftier explanation of the userbase is fallacious. You cannot draw muc of anything based on one game.

More, even if you could, trying to pass qualitative judgment on a library based on the people who are buying a console is prejudiced against people with different tastes. It's unfair and representative of a xenophobic mentality which is more or less exactly what Nintendo is doing its best to make gaming grow beyond in this generation.

I usually use the amount of people trying to discredit Nintendo before their conference as one metric to how awesome it will be. The fact that I strolled in here and see several people arguing against the usual "lol only charts and mario gamez" and "rofl nintndo not revelant!!1" crowds means that we're probably in for a fantastic showing if the Damage Control Patrol is in full force this early.

Metroid: Other M and Zelda Wii are already a one-two punch. 3DS will be the TKO. If Xenoblade, The Last Story and Golden Sun DS appear, I won't have anything to complain about. This is going in without anticipation of any surprises. Sony and MS are going to have to pull out some surprises to wow me, because I have a good feeling that Move and Natal won't win me over.

@Claude, I think you are onto something there. The suggestion that Nintendo could have a very good presentation this year seems to have ruffled a few feathers.

Although their recent previous presentations may not have set the world alight, particularly 2008, they had fantastic conferences in 2004 and 2006. 2004 was DS and Zelda (a one minute trailer which gathered as much attention as the biggest in depth reveals of other games) and 2006 was the full reveal of the Wii. In case people haven't been paying attention, 2010 will see the full reveal of 3DS and Zelda Wii. Even if those are the only major announcements (which we already have sufficient reason to believe they won't be) Nintendo are set to have a good conference. New hardware from the biggest videogames manufacturer in the world that is a follow up to the most successful handheld and soon to be best selling videogame system is big and exciting news for the entire industry. And if there is any Nintendo franchise that will excite the core focused media, it is Zelda. Nintendo are unveiling a Motion Plus controlled Legend of Zelda game just as Sony and Microsoft are launching their first wave of Natal/Move titles-I think it's going to be quite clear what motion controlled title will be a high quality experience at E3.

Claude hit the nail on the head, really. Early damage control attempts from the anti-Nintendo brigade 12 days before the conference should mean we're in for a great show. And not just a great show from Nintendo, a great show all round.

Nintendo going to "win" or "lose" based off the 3DS roll-out imo.  I also like the utter hypocrisy of your first sentince though, considering almost ALL Sony/MS have lined up so far for the core are well established sequels and brands (Halo, GT, LBP, Fable, Gears, Resistance, Killzone, Crackdown, Trico, inFamous, etc).  At least Nintendo's bringing actual new core IPs (RPGs even at that).

Listen maxwell, I know your mod, and I know your ULTRA ban trigger happy when it comes to anyone who says negative things about Ninty (cuz apparently you love their games, which is by any means is NOT a bad thing) , I know this cuz I have seen the way you act in the past as well...but if you think by voicing my opinion I'm being a troll so be it, I couldn't care less and I don't want to suck up to you to prove otherwise either...for me Ninty E3 was boring as hell, in 2008 and 2009...never really checked them out before those years tbh

and also isn't this topic about Ninty winning E3? So I can post here only if I 'agree' to it? or say 'positive' things about it? I have seen no such rule! And btw I'm sure rules apply to you as well, so unless your mod so your above the rest, you can't call people trolls either ;)

And my comment was aimed at those who keeps saying how once Ninty shows Zelda at E3 they won it or something...it just makes absolute no sense to me...show several great games, stop boring us to death with sales stuff....and they will spend a LOT of time on the vitality sensor this year which SCREAMS boredom to me...so no Ninty will not win E3 this year UNLESS 3DS is simply amazing! then it will be a day one purchase for me..however as of now we know absolutely NOTHING about it, so too early to call it..