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Carl on 19 May 2010
mysticwolf said:

That is the answer to the question of the title of this thread

So. Let me get this right. Some Nintendo fans are angry because...

Sony's remote is black, while the Wii's is white.

Sony's has a wireless sub-controller, the Wii's doesn't.

Sony's has a big coloured ball on the end, the Wii's doesn't.

Sony's uses a camera to work, the Wii's doesn't.

Sony's is more accurate than the Wii's.

Sony's cannot be tilted to be used like a traditional controller, the Wii's can.

OT:
I think it's more to do with the more hardcore Wii fanbase being worried of 3rd parties reaction to it. If it sells well enough, we could see 3rd parties show even less attention to the Wii. ESPECIALLY if Natal takes off too. I predict lots of butthurt talk after E3, if Natal is looking good...



                            

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dtewi on 19 May 2010
Smidlee said:
RolStoppable said:
Smidlee said:

I don't see how you can call Sony hypocrites since I have no doubt Sony actually did see motion controls as a gimmick. We know for a fact Sony did mess around with motion control during PS2 years. Sony had hope the "playstation" name itself would  overcome the expense of PS3. PS3 is Sony's best built console which had a top of the line Blu-ray unlike the average PS2 DVD player. Thus a hypocrite wouldn't put a lot of money into something they didn't think it would succeed.

Here is a good reason to call Sony hypocrites.

This was two years ago and this shows they were not hypocrites. They actually follow this path just as they described and lost their butts doing it. It's the same when the Big N finally dump the cartiage after losing to PS.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite

Hypocrisy is the act of persistently professing beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that are inconsistent with one's actions. 

Seems like Sony did that right there.

Would you STILL want to argue when you're so certainly wrong?



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Smidlee on 19 May 2010

Wii-mote does have a camera. It's in the controller.



Cheebee on 19 May 2010
Smidlee said:
Wii-mote does have a camera. It's in the controller.

Yes, that and the Wiimotes come in black too, there are (3rd party) wireless Nunchuks available, and with WM+ control is 1:1, so more accurate than that is impossible. He was right about the ball thing though, Wii doesn't have that. Shame, really.



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dtewi on 19 May 2010

.......you have literally no clue what you've been talking about in this thread, do you?



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BMaker11 on 19 May 2010
Kage848 said:

Anyone who thinks that motion conroles alone is why Nintendo has won this generation is badly mistaken.

As far as some Nintendo fans being upset? Yea it's because Sony talked so much shit and now there going to jump in bed for some money. Thats basicly it.

Thing is sony don't have what it takes to get the casuals, the REAL reason Nintendo won this gen. Low cost ( Sony don't have ) Mario ( Sony don't have ) inovation in there controls ( Sony also don't have, lets not forget its 3 years later ). Also theres the Wii sports/fit stuff. I guess Sony could copy Wii fit, i know they already have a Wii sports clone out there.

And as far as im concered Natal is a total joke. I think the Move will have very limited success and i think natal wont have much at all.

To stick up for the HD crowd I have to say I have not read/heard any HD fans saying they can't wait for more/natal. Most of the time it's like i don't want to damn motion controls! Good for them. And the people praiseing move and natal, that bashed the Wii, well fanboys will be fanboys.

Low Cost: GC cost less than PS2, didn't matter

Mario: GC and N64 had Mario, didn't matter

Wii Sports/Fit stuff: if this is the reason that the Wii has won this gen...I don't mind losing



Smidlee on 19 May 2010
dtewi said:
Smidlee said:
RolStoppable said:
Smidlee said:

I don't see how you can call Sony hypocrites since I have no doubt Sony actually did see motion controls as a gimmick. We know for a fact Sony did mess around with motion control during PS2 years. Sony had hope the "playstation" name itself would  overcome the expense of PS3. PS3 is Sony's best built console which had a top of the line Blu-ray unlike the average PS2 DVD player. Thus a hypocrite wouldn't put a lot of money into something they didn't think it would succeed.

Here is a good reason to call Sony hypocrites.

This was two years ago and this shows they were not hypocrites. They actually follow this path just as they described and lost their butts doing it. It's the same when the Big N finally dump the cartiage after losing to PS.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite

Hypocrisy is the act of persistently professing beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that are inconsistent with one's actions. 

Seems like Sony did that right there.

Would you STILL want to argue when you're so certainly wrong?

But that statement at the time is consistent with their actions and they had billions riding on it.

ECCI state that force feedback is a gimmick and not needed. They finally built a force feedback wheel because of Iracing laser scan tracks. ECCi were not hypocrites because they finally changed their minds.

 There is a saying "put your money where your mouth is." Sony did exact this and lost.



dtewi on 19 May 2010
Smidlee said:
dtewi said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite

Hypocrisy is the act of persistently professing beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that are inconsistent with one's actions. 

Seems like Sony did that right there.

Would you STILL want to argue when you're so certainly wrong?

But that statement at the time is consistent with their actions and they had billions riding on it. ECCI state that force feedback is a gimmick and not needed. They finally built a force feedback wheel because of Iracing laser scan tracks. 

 There is a saying "put your money where your mouth is." Sony did exact this and lost.

DUDE!

It doesn't matter.

They went against what they had said they believed before.

That is hypocrisy.

There's no time limit on it, it's still hypocrisy! It's not putting their money where their mouth is, it's hypocrisy.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

mysticwolf on 19 May 2010
Carl2291 said:
mysticwolf said:

That is the answer to the question of the title of this thread

So. Let me get this right. Some Nintendo fans are angry because...

Sony's remote is black, while the Wii's is white.

Sony's has a wireless sub-controller, the Wii's doesn't.

Sony's has a big coloured ball on the end, the Wii's doesn't.

Sony's uses a camera to work, the Wii's doesn't.

Sony's is more accurate than the Wii's.

Sony's cannot be tilted to be used like a traditional controller, the Wii's can.

OT:
I think it's more to do with the more hardcore Wii fanbase being worried of 3rd parties reaction to it. If it sells well enough, we could see 3rd parties show even less attention to the Wii. ESPECIALLY if Natal takes off too. I predict lots of butthurt talk after E3, if Natal is looking good...

Looks don't matter. It's the same thing, it just looks different.

Nintendo could've made the Nunchuck wireless if they wanted too, but they didn't.

Of course Move will be more accurate! Technology always gets better as time goes on.

If Nintendo wanted to make entirely new and more accurate controllers, they could. But instead of making customers buy entirely new controllers, they made Motion+



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Carl on 19 May 2010
Cheebee said:
Smidlee said:
Wii-mote does have a camera. It's in the controller.

Yes, that and the Wiimotes come in black too, there are (3rd party) wireless Nunchuks available, and with WM+ control is 1:1, so more accurate than that is impossible. He was right about the ball thing though, Wii doesn't have that. Shame, really.

Firstly, i never said it didn't have a camera. I said the PS Move needs a camera to work. The Wii Remote doesn't need a camera to work. If i'm wrong on that point... Then oh well. The other points stand.

The image he gave had a white Wii Remote.
Only 3rd party wireless remotes? None from Nintendo?
Needs an addon to match the PS Move, so again... Point stands. I said Wii Remote, not Wii Remote + Addons...
And big balls rule.