Selnor I defend you all the time but you my friend are no halo veteren. Halo veteran hate this fucking piece a shit

sorry for such harsh words but everone I know hates it (people that played halo 2 and 3 competivley)...absoulte garbage and should not be a

halo game. I think I played reach for about 8 hours and played agiast all types of people and the games inbalanced. You obviously never played

MLG lvl 50 play or any high Teamslayer in halo 2 or 3. I know how you are any xbox exclusive is the best game of the month, usally I tend to

agree with you but for once I am bashing people that once made a great game..instead they made it for the casuel market...go read the bungie

forums bro alot of people hate it. Never once have halo veterans asked for classed base, armor power up suit garbage. If you are considering

yourself a halo veterean I am ashamed to call myself one.  I really cant believe people are accepting reach as a halo game its so sad, the

weapons and aa are so korney and cheesy..lol  I guess its want all the halo noobs wanted though add a sprint button and take away skill

weapons and while bungie was at that they decided to add jetpacks and other dumb stuff. If you go by the order of the story its the order of

the competive gameplay as well. Reach

Well I'll stop you right there. I was in the Halo 3 beta. And we had people just like you are now, saying Halo 3 sucks balls. The ability pickups ruin Halo OMG!. But the people that learned to use the abilities to different tactical advantages loved Halo 3.

And as of today millions of people religiously play Halo 3 because they love it. ( Even though in the Beta people made comments like you are now about Reach. )

I will say to you like I said to them. Play it, learn how to use it. I'm only basing it on what you said about the abilities. And I would love to see a player use AL in front of me. It's an easy kill. Based on you saying that, tells me you have learnt very very little about tactics of Reach, and that is exactly the same as somecomplaints in Halo 3's Beta.

I hope to god Bungie ingore comments like this about the game the same way they ignored the nes for Halo 3.

I loved the Halo 3 throwdown items, me and my friend were just talking about that today. How bungie changed Halo2 but not drastically and Halo 3 I loved from day friggin one. Reach is the first game that doesnt feel like halo, it feel almost forced I dont know how to explain better. Its mw2 with powerups minus killstreaks but Im sure that in the next halo will have killstreaks now, and Im sure you will love it. This game changed the halo formula way to much, and made it so noob friendly its pathetic. Its really ashame to watch this franchise that Ive been playing for the last ten years burn into another casuel shooter.

-NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT REACH

-increased radar size

- powerups-- teams used to battle for map control is now gone. powerups are now freebies every newb has.

-heath pack

-loadouts---lmfao

-slower pacing

-smaller jump

-jetpack---took away some "hard jumps in the game" newbs will be able to casuelly fly to destation.

-weapon now can shoot constant beams across maps as well has shoot plasma grenade

-br removed due to mlg haters complaing about being 4shotted... mlg playist was in halo3 but the complaining still contuied so it was removed it

-change the control you used for the past ten years about--so newbs can have there loadouts with powerup button.

- bungie must have played the game shadowrun to much and like it so we figured we would put halo name in it

-stopped being orginal---this is like mario or some other classic franchise being ruined.

-split the community halo3/reach

Positive about Reach

-Bungies last halo game

- Leave much to be desired in Halo 4 and put pressure on 343 industries.

-make you appreciate Halo ODST (just when you thought it couldnt get worse)

Neutral things about reach

-added halo1 and halo 2 life system

-you now only have to own call of duty or halo reach to get the same expierence ( save people 60 dollars)

one more positvie for Halo Reach--the only game mode worth anything is Team Slayer Pro which you have a 25%chance of getting...i dont get owned in reach beta fyi. Console shooters are lessing aiming and more strafing aim doesnt require to much skill.

But its beta and hopefully things will change

oh yeah one more negative wtf happed to the beam rifle...diffently made for noobs now you got to admit selnor.

if there is a playist that is pure team slayer pro...or even better no aa at all I may get this one ...one day...used

selnor what are you expecting metareview to be on "Halo" Reach? 

You played for 8 whole hours? Wow, I can see how you clearly understand all the intricacies of the game balance. There can't possibly be any subtle nuances to game play that will be discovered. No new tips, tricks, or tactics to be discovered at all. 8 hours is enough to completely master a game, and make broad sweeping claims about how competitive it is.

You say you used to be a pro-gamer. You should see just how absurd the above is then. That is precisely what you are claiming. I won't comment on whether it plays like Halo, or is better or worse. However, the claim that you could possibly know how well balanced the game is right now is quite obviously absurd.

I'm not going to bother arguing with you since you clearly don't understand logic but I will say a few more things and then leave this thread.

Go to mlgpro.com every single old school Halo gamer and 90 percent of the new school gamers love Halo Reach. Stop lying and saying the Halo veterans hate it when all us Halo:CE player can't get enough of it. The powers are balanced your just not good enough of a player to take advantage of them. I would post a video of me playing and absolutely destroying kids with armor lock, camo and jet packs if I had a capture card since you clearly need a tutorial.

MLG has always modified the game types and they will do the same thing with Reach. They will make custom loadouts so most of the things you hate will be gone. Although that won't make a difference since you are clearly horrible at the game.

The majority of the people who hate the game are the people who suck at it. Prove me wrong and tell me your gamertag so I can look at your stats. Like I said before I'm glad that Bungie made a game that requires so much skill, the incessant whining of scrubs like you who think they were good at Halo before is proof of this.

I couldnt care what it metas. It will be higher than Halo 3 though. The singleplayer will be the best yet.

But yeah I agree on the Beam Rifle. Essentially what we have is that Beam gun from Halo 1.

All I want for you to do is play it 'not' thinking of Halo 3. I admit at first I was really struggling. Suddenly the controls clicked, and new tactics started happening. Soon I was mixing it up with new ways to do things. I made an awesome kill on SwordBase Slayer Classic. There is no loadouts on that. And everyone has Sprint as the Ability.

I ran jumped from a balcony whilst sprinting to get extra distance. Jumped over to a bridge ( Far jump ) and Meleed a player as he was running across. He had know Idea it was coming. Loved it.

@giznmo--never said I was pro bro..cool story though

Hopefully that is true and they get rid of all the loadout stuff for mlg mode...I said I like the game but it doesnt feel like halo..slayer pro is cool...mlg hasnt really been big since 08, that want I read...Mlg is even accepting mw2 lol

I dont like halo reach competeivly atm, buts its beta...If I want to play a competive mp fps Ill play counterstrike for pc.

My apologies. I assumed MLG was a pro gaming thingy. Never got into the competitive scenes. There is a basic problem with your imbalanced claims though. You seem to think they are all imbalanced. That literally can't be possible. All of them cannot be the best.