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Kenology said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
mortono said:
Hardcore gamers are so selfish. They actually think E3 is all about them! It's not a "consumer" show, it's a "trade" show. That means those presentations are made for people WITHIN THE TRADE.

In this sense, last e3 was certainly a success in that it excited retailers with the announcements of New Super Mario Bros and Wii Fit Plus for the holidays. Those might not be the titles the snobby, elitist IGN editors want, but the retailers knew it meant big money for them as these are huge mainstream titles.

This year, the real victories at E3 are going to be 3DS and Vitality Sensor. As much as IGN hates it, VS has the potential to be a new Wii Fit, especially if it focuses on helping people sleep. Think of the demand there is for sleep and relaxation aids. People buy medicines, take meditation classes, and upgrade mattresses all in the name of getting a better sleep. VS is tapping right into that demand in the same way Wii Fit tapped into the demand for home exercise equipment.

3DS is going to shock people when they realize "3D" visuals was not the actual focus of the console. In fact, people will forget the 3D aspect entirely as the real "hook" of the console is announced. Do you really think Nintendo is basing their next handheld console on 3d visuals when Iwata has said over and over that this alone can not justify the launch a new device? Personally, I think the 3DS is going to be more about 3d CONTROL than it will be about 3d VISUALS.

Of course, Zelda will probably be the announcement that IGN orgasms over. Other than this, I imagine they will declare e3 a failure only to be proven wrong when all the titles they hated sell tens of millions through the holidays.

And find some way to ignore that they were wrong.

They'll just write a 'blinded by Link' article this time.

They'll only say that in comparison to Darksiders or some other marginally related game that they think should have gotten more attention.



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I’m surprised that at this point in time videogame journalists still don’t seem to understand why Nintendo isn’t focusing on the Hard-Core gamer in their E3 news conference. On an arbitrary weekday in the middle of the year Nintendo can make a couple of sentence announcement with little information and dominate the news & rumour cycle in the gaming press for weeks (or longer); but they only have one event in the entire year where they can make an announcement that will get out through the mainstream media to build excitement with people who don’t follow gaming closely.

Certainly they can, should and do release information about their core games in their presentation but they need to focus on demonstrating what their new broad appeal products are, what they can do, why this is important/cool, and generally give people a desire to own them. The vitality sensor and the 3DS (or whatever they will show this E3) will take up the majority of the show because Nintendo needs these products to dominate the mainstream press coverage after the show.



dib8rman said:
I stopped reading at:
"I consider myself a nintendo fan."

Because I knew the next word would be "but", I don't even want to look! I'm that sure the next word is "but".

Brian Miggels, Editor: "I consider myself a Nintendo fan, but their last E3 press conference really left me disappointed....."

LOLOLLOL they got stealth-trolling and backhanded compliments down to a science.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

radiantshadow92 said:

umm they do know madworld doesn't tear up the charts and why just dance does. They are not blind Jeeez. 

When did they ever say it sold well because of the immersive world? It feels like you think these people are retarted or something. Dude, wake up. They are gamers just like us. Who give their opinion to the public and publish the gaming news. 

You clearly haven't seen their comments about Nintendo being lazy, and them claiming a game selling with HD graphics was the cause of those sales, not a correlation.

And making a strawman of my comments (I'm calling them wrong, not idiots) does not make my comments invalid. It just makes you someone who twists words.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Ahhh... Being paid to throw mud at Nintendo... Thousands of "hardcores" wet dream.



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I guess all in all I'm hoping that since Nintendo went way too casual in '08, and they had a decent balance in '09, that this will be the year the Wii sheds the image of it created by Wii Sports etc (like the ds did with brain age and Nintendogs over the latter years of its reign), and that we get a few mentions of things like Wii Sports, etc, to appease that crowd, but that 80 to 90 % of Nintendo's conference is dedicated to outstanding new games in traditional genres.



yeah, I know the Wii isn't regarded as being as powerful as the other consoles, but with the other consoles wanting to show their more casual friendly games this year, the Wii could really raise its standing with the core this year.



And you oftentimes here people say with Wii it's the gameplay. Well, if that's true why demonstrate that gameplay in Wii Sports, etc? Why not show that they have the best games in traditional genres? If they're truely the best, they will get the sales and accolades they deserve.



johnappseed84 said:
I guess all in all I'm hoping that since Nintendo went way too casual in '08, and they had a decent balance in '09, that this will be the year the Wii sheds the image of it created by Wii Sports etc (like the ds did with brain age and Nintendogs over the latter years of its reign), and that we get a few mentions of things like Wii Sports, etc, to appease that crowd, but that 80 to 90 % of Nintendo's conference is dedicated to outstanding new games in traditional genres.



yeah, I know the Wii isn't regarded as being as powerful as the other consoles, but with the other consoles wanting to show their more casual friendly games this year, the Wii could really raise its standing with the core this year.



And you oftentimes here people say with Wii it's the gameplay. Well, if that's true why demonstrate that gameplay in Wii Sports, etc? Why not show that they have the best games in traditional genres? If they're truely the best, they will get the sales and accolades they deserve.

Wii traditional games never get based on their own merit, rather they are compared to a similar thing on the PS3/360. For example, take this excerpt from the recent Monster Hunter 3 review from GameDaily:

"Even though its visuals and audio come up short, Monster Hunter Tri is one of Capcom's best. The gameplay grows on you after the first few monster kills, and teaming up with friends on epic quests never get old. Let's hope that Capcom has more Hunter adventures lined up in the future, perhaps for higher-end consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3."

 

With these quirky Wii games to demonstrate the gameplay, reviewers have to take much more of the product in at face value; they cannot find a similar experience anywhere else that matches the quality.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

Brian Miggels, Editor:

I consider myself a Nintendo fan, but their last E3 press conference really left me disappointed...

Bullshit.

If you weren't excited by last year's E3, then you are not even close to being a Nintendo fan.

Someone tell me, is it even worth reading the rest of the article?  The only other thing I read was the guy right above that put two silly conditions on Zelda, both of which have nothing to do with the game being fun.



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theRepublic said:

Brian Miggels, Editor:

I consider myself a Nintendo fan, but their last E3 press conference really left me disappointed...

Bullshit.

If you weren't excited by last year's E3, then you are not even close to being a Nintendo fan.

Someone tell me, is it even worth reading the rest of the article?  The only other thing I read was the guy right above that put two silly conditions on Zelda, both of which have nothing to do with the game being fun.

I just read over it.

Don't bother.



Khuutra said:
theRepublic said:

Brian Miggels, Editor:

I consider myself a Nintendo fan, but their last E3 press conference really left me disappointed...

Bullshit.

If you weren't excited by last year's E3, then you are not even close to being a Nintendo fan.

Someone tell me, is it even worth reading the rest of the article?  The only other thing I read was the guy right above that put two silly conditions on Zelda, both of which have nothing to do with the game being fun.

I just read over it.

Don't bother.

Thanks!

Now I can just close this thread and never open it again.



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