psrock said: Raze said: ^^ PSrock , motion controls have been in the works since the onset of virtual reality in the early 90s, before the PS1. Viper - I'll believe it when I see it. I don't think Sony can make a nunchuck-device without infringing on a Nintendo patent. Oh they are making one, and I bet you Sony has a patent for it.

Motion controls have been in the works for a long time.

Now a nunchuk and wiimote haven't been, and that was exactly what Sony ripped off with no shame and respect.

You're saying that Sony has been thinking about those same controllers and their designs since PS2?

Hypocrisy at its best, ladies and gentleman.

And Dumbness.

Sony's smart, they're not going to spend millions making something they'll know they'll get sued for.

Everybody's copied everybody one way or another, its just how well can one succeed with it.

It has nothing to do with being conservative. Heck, Nintendo sued Nyko on their nunchuck and that wasn't until that had been on the market for a while. They can't really do anything until after they know if Sony infringed on any patents. Any company that has half a brain running it wouldn't sue until they know if they have a case or not.

tell that to immerson with the dualshock rumble feature.

Bamboleo said: psrock said: Raze said: ^^ PSrock , motion controls have been in the works since the onset of virtual reality in the early 90s, before the PS1. Viper - I'll believe it when I see it. I don't think Sony can make a nunchuck-device without infringing on a Nintendo patent. Oh they are making one, and I bet you Sony has a patent for it. Motion controls have been in the works for a long time.   Now a nunchuk and wiimote haven't been, and that was exactly what Sony ripped off with no shame and respect. You're saying that Sony has been thinking about those same controllers and their designs since PS2?   Hypocrisy at its best, ladies and gentleman.   And Dumbness.

Copying success is not dumb, that's just smart. Sony will be getting all the games from third parties the Wii used to get exclusively. And from what  I hear, it's better anyway.

Shame' to bad girl gamers are fraid' to show face most of the time, best post on vgchartz evar.

So, then will there be a "nunchuck" for Natal? Happy or not, developers dont tell the HW company what to make, the HW company tells the devs what they are capable of designing. Is there ANY source, proof on the net NOT in a forum of this tech or even Sony musing about it? It seems like a lot of hype for something that doesnt even have one source of mention.

Yes and no, patents cover the mechanics of a device. If you read a patent, should it exist, it will read something like "Wired connectivity motion controller device accessory using BlueTooth technology" ...if the patent passes, then no one else can use that same method without permission. Obviously, diagrams of its functionaity must be provided. The point is, if Nintendo does hold a patent for the nunchuck, Sony cant just make a direct knockoff. They would have to add another clown nose to the left handed device, and allow it to be tracked by camera input only. Depending who has the original license for the tech on thumb sticks, Sony might not even have the capacity of adding a thumb control device to the unit.

Of course, this is all pending on the afforementioned conditions, IF this Sony device even IS real.

I still think the best idea of them all was that break-apart controller. That would have impressed me the most.

Nintendo benefits from broadening the gaming market, suing every company/competitor that 'mimics' them, 'borrows' their 'ideas' presents Nintendo in a bad light and stops further growth of the gaming industry.

In short: Nintendo are NOT Apple

I thought Sony was the innovative company this gen.

because nintendo doesnt own those patents. you have to look back in the year 2000 when a midway employee did a prototype for a wireless motion controller like the wii-mote and patent it. midway sold those patents (rumored to nintendo). but even before that, motion controlls existed so nintendo doesnt own those patents and to be frank the ps3 arc looks nothing like the wii-mote and in fact is much better improved