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ps2 will end up being supported until 2009 probably.. there are still plenty of games coming out for the ps2 and the wii is helping it.. because alot of thsoe games are going multi platform..



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Final-Fan said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
Final-Fan said:
sieanr said:
The Neo Geo lasted longer, with some of its top tier franchises still being released on the system in 2004.

Even if I accept the 1990-2004 lifespan, that is still only as long as the Genesis lasted. And considering SNK went bankrupt in 2001, I would argue that if 2001-2004 counts on the Neo-Geo, 2002-2007+ ought to count for the Genesis and 1998-2007+ for the Master System.

Dude, what country do you live in where the Geneis came out in 2002 and the Master System in 1998?


Allow me to quote myself: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Mega_Drive
"Globally the Sega Mega Drive and games began production in Japan in 1988 and ended with the last new game being released in 2002 in Brazil."
"The Mega Drive is still manufactured in Brazil, with many games built into the console."
  So I clearly meant that the Mega Drive had an undisputed life of 1988-2002 and a disputable additional life extending from 2002 out into the future. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Master_System
(released in 1986)
"The last commercial licensed release in Brazil was Sonic Blast, released by Tec Toy on 1998. The Master System is still being produced in Brazil."
  Same thing. 


 I'm sorry but you clearly said 1998, not 1988 and 2002, not 1992. Don't make your mistake my problem.



Girl Gamer Elite said:
Final-Fan said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
Final-Fan said:
sieanr said:
The Neo Geo lasted longer, with some of its top tier franchises still being released on the system in 2004.

Even if I accept the 1990-2004 lifespan, that is still only as long as the Genesis lasted. And considering SNK went bankrupt in 2001, I would argue that if 2001-2004 counts on the Neo-Geo, 2002-2007+ ought to count for the Genesis and 1998-2007+ for the Master System.

Dude, what country do you live in where the Geneis came out in 2002 and the Master System in 1998?


Allow me to quote myself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Mega_Drive
"Globally the Sega Mega Drive and games began production in Japan in 1988 and ended with the last new game being released in 2002 in Brazil."
"The Mega Drive is still manufactured in Brazil, with many games built into the console."
So I clearly meant that the Mega Drive had an undisputed life of 1988-2002 and a disputable additional life extending from 2002 out into the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Master_System
(released in 1986)
"The last commercial licensed release in Brazil was Sonic Blast, released by Tec Toy on 1998. The Master System is still being produced in Brazil."
Same thing.


I'm sorry but you clearly said 1998, not 1988 and 2002, not 1992. Don't make your mistake my problem.


Yes I did say 1998, as in "The Master System lasted from 1986 to 1998 AND THEN from 1998 to 2007 and onwards."  You obviously have a reading comprehension problem, and I would appreciate not being blamed for your resultant misunderstandings. 

The Neo-Geo did not start production in 2001; the Master System did not start production in 1998; the Genesis did not start production in 2002.  These are the dates that the systems officially died but actually have somewhat lived on after.  This is quite obvious from the context and previous posts, both of which are quoted above.  Please reread them until you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth keyboard.  



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Final-Fan said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
Final-Fan said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
Final-Fan said:
sieanr said:
The Neo Geo lasted longer, with some of its top tier franchises still being released on the system in 2004.

Even if I accept the 1990-2004 lifespan, that is still only as long as the Genesis lasted. And considering SNK went bankrupt in 2001, I would argue that if 2001-2004 counts on the Neo-Geo, 2002-2007+ ought to count for the Genesis and 1998-2007+ for the Master System.

Dude, what country do you live in where the Geneis came out in 2002 and the Master System in 1998?


Allow me to quote myself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Mega_Drive
"Globally the Sega Mega Drive and games began production in Japan in 1988 and ended with the last new game being released in 2002 in Brazil."
"The Mega Drive is still manufactured in Brazil, with many games built into the console."
So I clearly meant that the Mega Drive had an undisputed life of 1988-2002 and a disputable additional life extending from 2002 out into the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Master_System
(released in 1986)
"The last commercial licensed release in Brazil was Sonic Blast, released by Tec Toy on 1998. The Master System is still being produced in Brazil."
Same thing.


I'm sorry but you clearly said 1998, not 1988 and 2002, not 1992. Don't make your mistake my problem.


Yes I did say 1998, as in "The Master System lasted from 1986 to 1998 AND THEN from 1998 to 2007 and onwards."  You obviously have a reading comprehension problem, and I would appreciate not being blamed for your resultant misunderstandings. 

The Neo-Geo did not start production in 2001; the Master System did not start production in 1998; the Genesis did not start production in 2002.  These are the dates that the systems officially died but actually have somewhat lived on after.  This is quite obvious from the context and previous posts, both of which are quoted above.  Please reread them until you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth keyboard.  


 A system dies out when the company stops official support of it right. Why does brazil and other south american countries matter, they're not major regions and the continued support is by companies who have bought the right to make unliscenced games and clone consoles or alternate third world versions (SG-1000 Mk5, etc). If you want I'm sure we could count the lifespan of counterfeit consoles in china as part of the lifespan too. If your argument has to go to south america or china though, I think we can be pretty sure you don't have an argument. And since on this website seems to weigh all three major regions as each being part of the official console's support line, whenever its released first or discontinued last, no matter the region counts as its official lifespan.

But I'm pretty sure most people on this website can agree that a console's lifespan is from when it is officially launched (no matter the country) to when it officially ends (liscenced game support or console production ceases).

Why is the PSX lasting from 1995 - 2005 so hard for you to stomach? If you want to ignore Japan or any other region to suit ideas you're comfortable with then you might be on the wrong website. 



Girl Gamer Elite said:
Final-Fan said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
Final-Fan said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
Final-Fan said:
sieanr said:
The Neo Geo lasted longer, with some of its top tier franchises still being released on the system in 2004.

Even if I accept the 1990-2004 lifespan, that is still only as long as the Genesis lasted. And considering SNK went bankrupt in 2001, I would argue that if 2001-2004 counts on the Neo-Geo, 2002-2007+ ought to count for the Genesis and 1998-2007+ for the Master System.

Dude, what country do you live in where the Geneis came out in 2002 and the Master System in 1998?


Allow me to quote myself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Mega_Drive
"Globally the Sega Mega Drive and games began production in Japan in 1988 and ended with the last new game being released in 2002 in Brazil."
"The Mega Drive is still manufactured in Brazil, with many games built into the console."
So I clearly meant that the Mega Drive had an undisputed life of 1988-2002 and a disputable additional life extending from 2002 out into the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Master_System
(released in 1986)
"The last commercial licensed release in Brazil was Sonic Blast, released by Tec Toy on 1998. The Master System is still being produced in Brazil."
Same thing.


I'm sorry but you clearly said 1998, not 1988 and 2002, not 1992. Don't make your mistake my problem.


Yes I did say 1998, as in "The Master System lasted from 1986 to 1998 AND THEN from 1998 to 2007 and onwards." You obviously have a reading comprehension problem, and I would appreciate not being blamed for your resultant misunderstandings.

The Neo-Geo did not start production in 2001; the Master System did not start production in 1998; the Genesis did not start production in 2002. These are the dates that the systems officially died but actually have somewhat lived on after. This is quite obvious from the context and previous posts, both of which are quoted above. Please reread them until you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth keyboard.


A system dies out when the company stops official support of it right. Why does brazil and other south american countries matter, they're not major regions and the continued support is by companies who have bought the right to make unliscenced games and clone consoles or alternate third world versions (SG-1000 Mk5, etc). If you want I'm sure we could count the lifespan of counterfeit consoles in china as part of the lifespan too. If your argument has to go to south america or china though, I think we can be pretty sure you don't have an argument. And since on this website seems to weigh all three major regions as each being part of the official console's support line, whenever its released first or discontinued last, no matter the region counts as its official lifespan.

But I'm pretty sure most people on this website can agree that a console's lifespan is from when it is officially launched (no matter the country) to when it officially ends (liscenced game support or console production ceases).

Why is the PSX lasting from 1995 - 2005 so hard for you to stomach? If you want to ignore Japan or any other region to suit ideas you're comfortable with then you might be on the wrong website.

Jumping to a different argument and ignoring the fact that you were proven wrong:  a classic tactic of the intellectually dishonest. 

The reasons you gave are EXACTLY the same reasons why I gave two different lifespans for the systems.  And when did I imply that I had any trouble "stomaching" the PS1's longevity?  The only thing even close to that is that I think that calling the PS1's 10 (or 11) year lifetime a "tremendous innovation" is both silly (what is 'innovative' about staying on the market a long time?) and stupid (other consoles have lasted longer BEFORE the PS).  

I pointed out that the Genesis and Master System have lasted longer, then sieanr said "well the Neo-Geo lasted even longer", then I said "no it didn't" and gave my reasons, and then you called me stupid because you misread my post.  

If you want to ignore the factual arguments in people's posts to suit ideas you're comfortable with then you might be on the wrong website.   

 



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Go Final-Fan, that was pretty funny. If she had just read the whole post then she wouldn't have come off looking so foolish. You are right though, I really like how a completely different subject was introduced to take the heat off the prior posts. Anyways though, back on topic. Since the PSX was officially supported in Japan and not America, especially considering most of us dont live there, there is no way it's lifespan lasted till 2005. Also, what kind of obscure titles were coming out for it anyways? Did sony themselves actually release their own software on the PSX in Japan up until 2005? If not, then I think that also constitutes the consoles life being over.



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neo geo was supported by snk until sumarai shodown special in october of 2004, snk went under in 2001 but eventual reformed under playmore and the neo geo limped on until 2004, but hardware production stopped in 1997 for the home system
the atari 2600 definately lasted for 14 years, with new official atari games coming out all the way until 1991, Secret Quest was the last game released with hardware being released until the last year I believe, I know I have one from 1988



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you people drasticaly underestimate how well hardware holds up to being on. turning a system on and off is far harder on it than constantan running unless you run it in say 20F or 98F ambient temps.

your hardwares main enemies are, exsesive heat, humidity, rapid temprature change, static shock and copper creep (when the material used to print the circut boards slowly branches out and crosses over to form a new cicut and frys the board ..... right now no one understands why it happens)

my 360 is routinely on for 2 or 3 days I simply forget its on, or leave it on so my roomate could finnish the game while im off at work, use an av switch for diffrent systems....

my tower only goes off when i head out of state, software installs, hardware upgrades. out of 4 years ive had it i speculate its been on for 3.2.... i was out of country for 6 months..

my laptop, is always either on or in hybernation

if your worried im wasting power when idle they fold@home.... i do video design and graphic design so id say i work on them at least 10 hours a day and fool around in between videogames.....

only my printers, scanners and back up hd get turned off. my monitor goes to sleep quickly lcd samsung

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