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Just because the PS1 and PS2 lasted 10 years doesn't mean they were future-proofed. I mean, did the amazing sales of the PS2 stop Sony from coming out with a PS3? No. So they can shut up. They'll have a PS4 in the 8th generation, and it'll launch right when everybody else does. He's just trying to say "we'll support it for a long time," but that will only happen if the PS3 is the market leader, which it won't be. They were making Famicoms for over 20 years in Japan. I'd like to see any Sony console do that. The market leader always lasts an extra generation due to the lower price and huuuuge diverse game library. Without a 16-hit combo of miracles, the PS3 won't have either of those any time soon.



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leo-j said:
Well your talking about the graphics card, if I kew more about pc I would prove you wrong, but I dont. I'll just let sony handle the proof.

If you knew more about PCs you would realize that it is not just the graphics processor, the PS3 is outmatched in every capacity, and Sony simply can't prove me wrong.

Getting into a "Dick Measuring contest" with the PS3 vs the PC is simply not a competition the PS3 can win; the PS3 is essentially a "young boy who hasn't hit puberty" and the PC is "A pornstar named Tripod" ...

weezy said:
Ps3 will most likely be "more powerful" than the next gen nintendo imo

Maybe, but I doubt it ...

The question is, where would the value be in keeping their next generation system at such a low performance range?

The Wii is lower power because:

  1. HDTV adoption is low and will remain in the minority for most of the generation; this means that a large portion of any additional processing power they included would be wasted for the average consumer.
  2. Their competition's systems are amazingly expensive to manufacture and for the consumer; this means that their competition has priced themselves out of the market of the average consumer and it will take years before the systems approach a mass market price.
  3. Third party developers have not built the tools and do not have to processes in place to produce high quality graphically intense games for an affordable price; it will take most of the generation for middleware developers to produce standard asset libraries and to build the necessary tools to greatly reduce the man power to make these games.
  4. Nintendo was not certain the Wii was going to be a success and wanted to keep the systems' research and development costs down, software development costs down, and ensure that their system was affordable to consumers.

I seriously doubt that these factors will be in place (at the same level) in the next generation.

 

I'm not saying that their next generation system will be bleeding edge technology, it will probably just be the most powerful system they can afford to produce and sell for $200 to $300 off the bat at little or no loss; this would certainly be more powerful than the PS3 but may not be as powerful as the PS4.



dear god, That alienware PC is so frikkin hot. I've I had five grand right now, I would get it.

And leo-j, seriously how do you expect the $600 PS3 to compete with a 5000 dollar monster of a machine? The oh so touted uber power PS3 is still a console and not a PC. And since the dawn of the break in evolution between console and PC, PCs have always been more powerful. Less user friendly, but way more powerful. PS3 hasn't changed that. It's no where near as powerful as that gaming machine linked above (not the graphics card, the alienware PC). The fact that developers don't know the machine's limits doesn't imply that the PS3 is infinitely powerful, so much as it implies that it's poorly designed for developers.



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HappySqurriel said:
Getting into a "Dick Measuring contest" with the PS3 vs the PC is simply not a competition the PS3 can win; the PS3 is essentially a "young boy who hasn't hit puberty" and the PC is "A pornstar named Tripod" ...

Best comparison EVER

 

weezy said:
Ps3 will most likely be "more powerful" than the next gen nintendo imo
 
No, totally unlikely. Wii is more powerful than Xbox 1, and PS3 is not exactly a godlike powerful machine. It's power is very very achievable.


If we're comparing PCs to PS3s, there is something I would like to know.

My PC contains a Core 2 Duo clocked at 2.2 GHz (E4500), Geforce 8400 GS, and 2 GB SDRAM.

How does that stand against the PS3?

I thought this computer would be good to fully Medieval 2: Total War and it does for the most part but in an intense battle, the framerate just drops completely. 

 



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totalwar23 said:

If we're comparing PCs to PS3s, there is something I would like to know.

My PC contains a Core 2 Duo clocked at 2.2 GHz (E4500), Geforce 8400 GS, and 2 GB SDRAM.

How does that stand against the PS3?

I thought this computer would be good to fully Medieval 2: Total War and it does for the most part but in an intense battle, the framerate just drops completely. 

 


It's because the videocard, those ones have a crappy 64-bit memory bandwidth.

The only advantage that card has against a PS3 is higher Shader Operations, but nothing else. Try getting something on the like of a Radeon X1950 or GeForce 7950, because right now the Direct3D 10 lineup sucks at it, no point of having it.

Everything else is fine. 



Only problem there is that I have a mini-computer and have to use a half height video card. I looked around a little and that seems to be the most advanced half height.



totalwar23 said:
Only problem there is that I have a mini-computer and have to use a half height video card. I looked around a little and that seems to be the most advanced half height.

do some measuring and shop around, I'm sure you can find a x1950  that can fit in there.  one thing you have to be caution is your power supply, make sure you got enough watt to run those new video card as they all consume alot of power.

 

edit: I dont think thats Hus, maybe wishmul O.o



The only console that was "future proof" was the phantom. Oh wait...yeah scratch that one.



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Software makes a platform "future proof", not the hardware as many believe; but he's right in one thing, IMO. All companies need "evangelists" to spread the word; Nintendo said so too and it actually works.