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 Our story starts two days after my purchase of MK8 where I easily beat the game with 3-stars on all the Cups and the Mirror Cups. This was a surprise as I had never beaten a Mario Kart game so incredibly fast, and in such short play-time. This got me thinking back to all my multiple races over and over again on the same exact courses in marginally different speeds and I think to myself, "DAMN! This game is casual!" Okay, maybe I didn't think exactly that, but you get the point.

 Playing MKWii was a totally different story. Maybe you could blame it on the motion controls making the game a little iffy on some turns and jumps, but MKWii never politely nudged you off walls you hit; if you hit a wall you slowed down. MKWii never gave you a Blue Shell extinguisher; if a Blue Shell was headed your way you were either pro enough to dodge it or pro enough to take back first place. MKWii also gave you the possibility of holding more shells, meaning you had the possibility of being more ruthless to your opponents than you could in MK8.

 The Wii gets shamed for being a casual console, and, in turn, it's games as well, but MK8 was dumbed down. There are other things I can mention to support my point (like Retro courses from the Wii entry being simplified. Ex. Wario's Gold Mine is much easier.) but I'll leave this up to discussion. Does anyone else notice a difficulty difference? Hell, I even notice a difference when playing MK7 versus MK8.



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Mk Wii defines casual there is no skill at all when compared to Mk8.
MK8 even has advanced techniques like fire-hopping.
Mario Kart 8 is risk reward play style that has a giant skill gap compared to MKWii where a 3 year old could get first place just because he got the best items. Mk 8 is not like that at all you have to know the best way around the track and when to use the items.



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Perhpas MK8 is a bit easier than MKWii, but MK8 still remains the better game here for a number of reasons.



                
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toot1231 said:
Mk Wii defines casual there is no skill at all when compared to Mk8.
MK8 even has advanced techniques like fire-hopping.
Mario Kart 8 is risk reward play style that has a giant skill gap compared to MKWii where a 3 year old could get first place just because he got the best items. Mk 8 is not like that at all you have to know the best way around the track and when to use the items.

You are acting like MKWii doesn't employ these skills. In order to get first place you have to use your items well in MKWii, especially considering the onslaught of items that could possibly be coming towards you. 

MKWii also has shortcuts, as that is the thing I feel you may be referring to in the bolded. It's pretty vague, so please expand.



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You do realize that the reason why its easier ways to dodge/destroy the blue shell is cause Nintendo fans whined about it right? And now you are whining about the fact that its too easy to dodge/destroy it? Nintendo really can't make their fans happy now can they?

And I mean... With MK8, its never really about the single player... Its always about the multiplayer so calling the game more casual mostly based on the Single Player seems pretty lolz to me.



             

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No, I didn't really notice this. "Casual" is a term that is so overused it doesn't really mean anything now anyway. I consider Mario Kart Wii to be an "accessible" game and Mario Kart 8 the same. (Incidentally I use motion controls for both for maximum fun)

One point you make that is definitely true - it's a lot easier to 3 star all cups on MK8. On MKWii I still haven't managed that to this day (I did manage 1 star on all cups, but no more). However, that's a transition that started on MK7, where it was also super-easy to do that.

At the end of the day, does it actually matter if the game is "casual" or not? The question is whether it's fun. Both MKWii and MK8 deliver very strongly on the fun factor for me - and online is still a fantastic challenge on MK8 simply because even if the game is easy, online it's easy for everyone!



NintendoPie said:
toot1231 said:
Mk Wii defines casual there is no skill at all when compared to Mk8.
MK8 even has advanced techniques like fire-hopping.
Mario Kart 8 is risk reward play style that has a giant skill gap compared to MKWii where a 3 year old could get first place just because he got the best items. Mk 8 is not like that at all you have to know the best way around the track and when to use the items.

You are acting like MKWii doesn't employ these skills. In order to get first place you have to use your items well in MKWii, especially considering the onslaught of items that could possibly be coming towards you. 

MKWii also has shortcuts, as that is the thing I feel you may be referring to in the bolded. It's pretty vague, so please expand.


Mario Kart Wii did have shortcuts but 99% of the time they did not matter because you would get hit by something anyway. Where in Mario Kart 8 deadly items are far more rare which makes actual racing more of a determination of position not just getting lucky items.



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toot1231 said:
Mk Wii defines casual there is no skill at all when compared to Mk8.
MK8 even has advanced techniques like fire-hopping.
Mario Kart 8 is risk reward play style that has a giant skill gap compared to MKWii where a 3 year old could get first place just because he got the best items. Mk 8 is not like that at all you have to know the best way around the track and when to use the items.

You were obviously never particularly good at MKWii.



Cream147 said:
toot1231 said:
Mk Wii defines casual there is no skill at all when compared to Mk8.
MK8 even has advanced techniques like fire-hopping.
Mario Kart 8 is risk reward play style that has a giant skill gap compared to MKWii where a 3 year old could get first place just because he got the best items. Mk 8 is not like that at all you have to know the best way around the track and when to use the items.

You were obviously never particularly good at MKWii.


Never played online on Mk Wii but I have played the single player a ton and this is what hes talking about.



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