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Hardstuck-Platinum said:
bdbdbd said:

Of course computer can operate without operating system. OS is just a program (rather set of them) to use the computer. NES is just as much a computer as Commodore 64 or my mobile phone or the gaming PC my kids have or Switch. Yes, CD-i doesn't really classify as a console. 

NES is just as much of a computer as a gaming PC? A single purpose games console that has no OS (I looked it up) is just as much of a computer as a gaming PC? How exactly does a computer operate without an OS? They're called operating systems for a reason, you need them to operate the computer. Are you trying to say that just because the computer turns on when you press the button it is technically "operating" and therefore doesn't need the OS to be operated by the user? 

Many computers in the past had no operating system. this was true for big commercial or research computers. They were designed to run a program directly from their input media, be it punch cards or tape. For convenience people started developing operating systems, as many function were made anew for each program. Also operating systems were needed if you wanted to have multiple users. So OS got developed. This culminated in Unix, a system consisting of a set of programs not just one that got circulated widely between research facilities, governmental computers and commercial computers.

Then later on with the home computer revolution you had again computers without operating systems. These were designs made cheaper so that you can buy them as a person, personal computers. Again the system was to run directly a program from the input media, here often cassette/datasette or floppy disks. Examples are Sinclair's ZX Spectrum or Commodore 64.

Even modern PCs are designed to run a program from disk, but nowadays the floppy disk is usually replaced with a hard-drive. Operating systems are loaded with this mechanism, as any program can be loaded this program can be an operating system. So you could still run modern PCs without an OS, it just will be difficult to find a program that runs without, you probably have to create it yourself.

So if you insist computers need an operating system you seem not to understand at all what a computer is.



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