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bdbdbd said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Computers have operating systems and multiple uses, that's why they're in a different category. I don't see how reverse logic on my statement would mean computers would become consoles. A computer cannot function as a console because a computer cannot function without an operating system, a console can. If you want to say switch functions as a console because it can be played on a TV, then you have to say PSP and Sega nomad do as well because they can be played on TV too.  

The argument became "Switch is console hybrid because of multiple controllers and local multiplayer, and PSP and nomad can't do that". Well if not having that means your not a console, the majority of all CD-I's out there don't classify as consoles. 

Of course computer can operate without operating system. OS is just a program (rather set of them) to use the computer. NES is just as much a computer as Commodore 64 or my mobile phone or the gaming PC my kids have or Switch. Yes, CD-i doesn't really classify as a console. 

NES is just as much of a computer as a gaming PC? A single purpose games console that has no OS (I looked it up) is just as much of a computer as a gaming PC? How exactly does a computer operate without an OS? They're called operating systems for a reason, you need them to operate the computer. Are you trying to say that just because the computer turns on when you press the button it is technically "operating" and therefore doesn't need the OS to be operated by the user?