Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[Mnementh]

RolStoppable said:

Barozi said:

"ignoring that there was never going to be a big number to die because of COVID to begin with"

lol you got any source for that? Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.

"The thing that bothers me the most about all those corona measures is that no country went with the simple idea of isolating its risk groups from the rest of the population instead of isolating everyone."

When it's so easy then you shouldn't have a problem telling me HOW that can be accomplished. You know, underage people at higher risk living with their parents or elderly living in the same household as their children and grand children. Elderly who live alone yet still need to visit a doctor and buy groceries. etc. etc. How can you properly isolate them when pretty much everyone else has a much much much higher chance of being infected?

1. After so many months of COVID it should be common knowledge that the vast majority of corona infections resulted in no, mild or only moderate symptoms.

2. When governments are able to push through measures that apply to the whole population, then they are capable of doing the same for a smaller group. Risk groups that live in the same household as people who don't belong to a risk group, that is solved by the no-risk people doing the same thing that they are supposed to do during the actual measures that were applied; namely, keep contact to people outside the household as low as possible, do home office or work only a few hours per week while still getting nearly the same pay as for the full-time job.

Elderly who live alone can rely on relatives, neighbors or delivery services to get their necessary shopping done. Visiting a doctor isn't a problem either, because going outside doesn't lead to a corona infection while at the doctor's place there are rules to keep potential corona infections to a minimum anyway.

Everyone else can go on with their lives and meet other people, except that typical hazards aren't allowed: Big events don't get to have spectators, pubs and clubs are closed, any kind of big gatherings with notable consumption of alcoholic beverages. Vacations in other countries will have to be followed up by 14 days of quarantine at home. But when you put these things together, you need a whole lot less money to subsidize ailing businesses, because you focus on the few that pose an actual threat for the health of the whole population.

Did I mention mask duty in shops along with keeping distance to other customers? In any case, I am not proposing a "let's not do anything to keep the spread down", but rather a way to focus on where the actual risks are instead of treating everyone and everything the same.

The true fact that COVID-19 (as pretty much all illnesses) is more dangerous for older people has somehow transformed into: it is no problem for younger people. But that is just not true. COVID-19 is also for people in their 20s or 30s much more dangerous than the flu. But the flu also especially hits hard elderly people and the same is true for COVID-19. That doesn't change the fact, that younger people die form COVID, or what is often forgotten suffer long-term problems in long COVID.