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Hidalgo on 17 November 2009

The reason behind the great gap in PES 2010 sales between the PS3 and X360 version is no other than this:

The hardcore gamer this gen chose X360,
and, as hardcore gamers, they are better informed than non hardcore gamers,
so, they knew PES2010 was ape shit,
and as a result, they took FIFA 10.


Meanwhile, PS3 casual owners who like football associate PES with PlayStation brand and they don't even know how good FIFA10 is. They don't even care. PES came into their lifes with PS2 and was c00l. Then, having the newest PES in PS3 is even c00ler.



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nen-suer on 17 November 2009
Hidalgo said:
The reason behind the great gap in PES 2010 sales between the PS3 and X360 version is no other than this:

The hardcore gamer this gen chose X360,
and, as hardcore gamers, they are better informed than non hardcore gamers,
so, they knew PES2010 was ape shit,
and as a result, they took FIFA 10.


Meanwhile, PS3 casual owners who like football associate PES with PlayStation brand and they don't even know how good FIFA10 is. They don't even care. PES came into their lifes with PS2 and was c00l. Then, having the newest PES in PS3 is even c00ler.

Fifa 2010 on PS3 out sold Fifa 2010 on the xbox

So....i guess your not informed



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chubaca on 17 November 2009
numonex said:
No wonder FIFA 10 is pwning PES 10 in sales.
FIFA series has averaged over 10 points higher than the PES series for the last three years.
FIFA series has fully licensed teams, good graphics, good gameplay, playable online.
PES 10 has partially licensed teams, mediocre graphics, screen tearing, frame rate issues, unplayable online.
Soccer/Football fans will choose FIFA 10 over PES 10 due to it being the much better sports simulation.
PES is ancient news and its best days are long behind it. Apparently PES was considered better than FIFA back in its heyday on PS1/PS2. But that is debatable, I personally always preferred FIFA over PES.
Game critics and consumers confirm FIFA series is better than PES series.
PS3 is the soccer console confirmed by the higher sales of the two soccer games.

No, it wasn't debatable, FIFA was crap, always.

something that bothers me is that from what I remember FIFA always got better critic reception (and I'm talking even in the days of Super Nintendo, when the difference was even more ridiculous in favour of ISSS). Critics always gave too much value in licenced teams and statistics over gameplay. The thing is, I played every single iteration of ISSS/Winning Eleven/PES and once every two o three years I gave a chance to a FIFA game, cause every fucking year the press promised that it was the best thing evar, much better than before, etc, and it was always a terrible game, not just inferior to the konami game, but a horrible game experience.

So after somewhere between 06 or 07, I simply gave up on FIFA. Never more. Not a chance. They may say it's miles better than PES, whatever, that promise has existed always and never been delivered.

Am I missing a great game? I don't know, I don't care, and I won't even try. EA Sports fucked with my money too many times, they won't have it anymore.



chubaca on 17 November 2009
Hidalgo said:
The reason behind the great gap in PES 2010 sales between the PS3 and X360 version is no other than this:

The hardcore gamer this gen chose X360,
and, as hardcore gamers, they are better informed than non hardcore gamers,
so, they knew PES2010 was ape shit,
and as a result, they took FIFA 10.


Meanwhile, PS3 casual owners who like football associate PES with PlayStation brand and they don't even know how good FIFA10 is. They don't even care. PES came into their lifes with PS2 and was c00l. Then, having the newest PES in PS3 is even c00ler.

What?

are you fifteen years old?



nen-suer on 17 November 2009
chubaca said:
numonex said:
No wonder FIFA 10 is pwning PES 10 in sales.
FIFA series has averaged over 10 points higher than the PES series for the last three years.
FIFA series has fully licensed teams, good graphics, good gameplay, playable online.
PES 10 has partially licensed teams, mediocre graphics, screen tearing, frame rate issues, unplayable online.
Soccer/Football fans will choose FIFA 10 over PES 10 due to it being the much better sports simulation.
PES is ancient news and its best days are long behind it. Apparently PES was considered better than FIFA back in its heyday on PS1/PS2. But that is debatable, I personally always preferred FIFA over PES.
Game critics and consumers confirm FIFA series is better than PES series.
PS3 is the soccer console confirmed by the higher sales of the two soccer games.

No, it wasn't debatable, FIFA was crap, always.

something that bothers me is that from what I remember FIFA always got better critic reception (and I'm talking even in the days of Super Nintendo, when the difference was even more ridiculous in favour of ISSS). Critics always gave too much value in licenced teams and statistics over gameplay. The thing is, I played every single iteration of ISSS/Winning Eleven/PES and once every two o three years I gave a chance to a FIFA game, cause every fucking year the press promised that it was the best thing evar, much better than before, etc, and it was always a terrible game, not just inferior to the konami game, but a horrible game experience.

So after somewhere between 06 or 07, I simply gave up on FIFA. Never more. Not a chance. They may say it's miles better than PES, whatever, that promise has existed always and never been delivered.

Am I missing a great game? I don't know, I don't care, and I won't even try. EA Sports fucked with my money too many times, they won't have it anymore.

My feeling exactly, i stopped buying fifa since 2001, tried some later ones and found it the same

don't really care about Fifa games anymore :(



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Kresh3 on 17 November 2009
chubaca said:
numonex said:
No wonder FIFA 10 is pwning PES 10 in sales.
FIFA series has averaged over 10 points higher than the PES series for the last three years.
FIFA series has fully licensed teams, good graphics, good gameplay, playable online.
PES 10 has partially licensed teams, mediocre graphics, screen tearing, frame rate issues, unplayable online.
Soccer/Football fans will choose FIFA 10 over PES 10 due to it being the much better sports simulation.
PES is ancient news and its best days are long behind it. Apparently PES was considered better than FIFA back in its heyday on PS1/PS2. But that is debatable, I personally always preferred FIFA over PES.
Game critics and consumers confirm FIFA series is better than PES series.
PS3 is the soccer console confirmed by the higher sales of the two soccer games.

No, it wasn't debatable, FIFA was crap, always.

something that bothers me is that from what I remember FIFA always got better critic reception (and I'm talking even in the days of Super Nintendo, when the difference was even more ridiculous in favour of ISSS). Critics always gave too much value in licenced teams and statistics over gameplay. The thing is, I played every single iteration of ISSS/Winning Eleven/PES and once every two o three years I gave a chance to a FIFA game, cause every fucking year the press promised that it was the best thing evar, much better than before, etc, and it was always a terrible game, not just inferior to the konami game, but a horrible game experience.

So after somewhere between 06 or 07, I simply gave up on FIFA. Never more. Not a chance. They may say it's miles better than PES, whatever, that promise has existed always and never been delivered.

Am I missing a great game? I don't know, I don't care, and I won't even try. EA Sports fucked with my money too many times, they won't have it anymore.

i used to play ISS / PES until FIFA 09 came out.

FIFA 09 is the best football game ever. even better than PES 4-6.

FIFA 10 is better than PES 2010 but it is still worse than FIFA 09.



chubaca on 17 November 2009
Kresh3 said:
chubaca said:
numonex said:
No wonder FIFA 10 is pwning PES 10 in sales.
FIFA series has averaged over 10 points higher than the PES series for the last three years.
FIFA series has fully licensed teams, good graphics, good gameplay, playable online.
PES 10 has partially licensed teams, mediocre graphics, screen tearing, frame rate issues, unplayable online.
Soccer/Football fans will choose FIFA 10 over PES 10 due to it being the much better sports simulation.
PES is ancient news and its best days are long behind it. Apparently PES was considered better than FIFA back in its heyday on PS1/PS2. But that is debatable, I personally always preferred FIFA over PES.
Game critics and consumers confirm FIFA series is better than PES series.
PS3 is the soccer console confirmed by the higher sales of the two soccer games.

No, it wasn't debatable, FIFA was crap, always.

something that bothers me is that from what I remember FIFA always got better critic reception (and I'm talking even in the days of Super Nintendo, when the difference was even more ridiculous in favour of ISSS). Critics always gave too much value in licenced teams and statistics over gameplay. The thing is, I played every single iteration of ISSS/Winning Eleven/PES and once every two o three years I gave a chance to a FIFA game, cause every fucking year the press promised that it was the best thing evar, much better than before, etc, and it was always a terrible game, not just inferior to the konami game, but a horrible game experience.

So after somewhere between 06 or 07, I simply gave up on FIFA. Never more. Not a chance. They may say it's miles better than PES, whatever, that promise has existed always and never been delivered.

Am I missing a great game? I don't know, I don't care, and I won't even try. EA Sports fucked with my money too many times, they won't have it anymore.

i used to play ISS / PES until FIFA 09 came out.

FIFA 09 is the best football game ever. even better than PES 4-6.

FIFA 10 is better than PES 2010 but it is still worse than FIFA 09.

You may be right...but I'll never know :)



Kresh3 on 17 November 2009
chubaca said:
Kresh3 said:
chubaca said:
numonex said:
No wonder FIFA 10 is pwning PES 10 in sales.
FIFA series has averaged over 10 points higher than the PES series for the last three years.
FIFA series has fully licensed teams, good graphics, good gameplay, playable online.
PES 10 has partially licensed teams, mediocre graphics, screen tearing, frame rate issues, unplayable online.
Soccer/Football fans will choose FIFA 10 over PES 10 due to it being the much better sports simulation.
PES is ancient news and its best days are long behind it. Apparently PES was considered better than FIFA back in its heyday on PS1/PS2. But that is debatable, I personally always preferred FIFA over PES.
Game critics and consumers confirm FIFA series is better than PES series.
PS3 is the soccer console confirmed by the higher sales of the two soccer games.

No, it wasn't debatable, FIFA was crap, always.

something that bothers me is that from what I remember FIFA always got better critic reception (and I'm talking even in the days of Super Nintendo, when the difference was even more ridiculous in favour of ISSS). Critics always gave too much value in licenced teams and statistics over gameplay. The thing is, I played every single iteration of ISSS/Winning Eleven/PES and once every two o three years I gave a chance to a FIFA game, cause every fucking year the press promised that it was the best thing evar, much better than before, etc, and it was always a terrible game, not just inferior to the konami game, but a horrible game experience.

So after somewhere between 06 or 07, I simply gave up on FIFA. Never more. Not a chance. They may say it's miles better than PES, whatever, that promise has existed always and never been delivered.

Am I missing a great game? I don't know, I don't care, and I won't even try. EA Sports fucked with my money too many times, they won't have it anymore.

i used to play ISS / PES until FIFA 09 came out.

FIFA 09 is the best football game ever. even better than PES 4-6.

FIFA 10 is better than PES 2010 but it is still worse than FIFA 09.

You may be right...but I'll never know :)

come on, try it out.

i hate EA too and i still bought it.

 

EA are such assholes. i bought NFS:Shift because it got high review scores and you know what, the game is useless. the controls are shit and the AI is crap.

i bought FIFA 10 and its a major dissappointment in comparison to FIFA 09. (PES 2010 is still worse than FIFA 10!!!)

i bought Fight Night 4 because of the high reviews too and its a piece of shit. FN3 was 1000x better.

i watched 2 videos of BC2 and the game looks so great. the graphics are so awesome, 1 of the best i have ever seen, if not the best. but you know what, i am afraid to buy it, because its from damn EA and all games they released this year were disappointing.



SOLIDSNAKE08 on 17 November 2009
Hidalgo said:
The reason behind the great gap in PES 2010 sales between the PS3 and X360 version is no other than this:

The hardcore gamer this gen chose X360,
and, as hardcore gamers, they are better informed than non hardcore gamers,
so, they knew PES2010 was ape shit,
and as a result, they took FIFA 10.


Meanwhile, PS3 casual owners who like football associate PES with PlayStation brand and they don't even know how good FIFA10 is. They don't even care. PES came into their lifes with PS2 and was c00l. Then, having the newest PES in PS3 is even c00ler.


probably the most stupid post i have read in forum history, and PES 2010 is awful imo. just doesnt feel like the pes of old.



Barozi on 17 November 2009
davygee said:

Have not been keeping tabs on both Fifa Soccer 10 and PES 2010, but just noticed how well they are selling, especially on the PS3, see below:

  Xbox 360 Playstation 3
Fifa Soccer 10 1,233,944 1,693,007
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010

279,390

1,095,427

Looking at it, what is happening with PES on the 360?  They have sold under 300k units compared to over 1m for the PS3.  I know that football games are much more popular in Others than NA and that PES is more associated with the Playstation brand than Xbox, but why is there such a huge difference?  Going at that rate it will be very hard to reach 1m on the 360 if at all.

Sorry, mucked up the columns...it's fixed now!

It's not like the 360 version of PES sold poor, the PS3 version simply sold not poor enough !

The game doesn't deserve so much sales.