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1200p|is|FullHD on 18 October 2009
scottie said:
TGolem said:
by the logic that scottie uses no matter how technically advanced a game is it could theoretically be reduced to a mere shadow of the real thing and made into an atari game that looks the same as every other atari game. that argument could be made for every game ever made but it holds no water at all because the game would no longer be as good and that's why we advance the technology in the first place, to make the games better.

 

You unfortunately missed my point slightly.

 

I said that I care not for graphics, but only that the gameplay etc are unaffected.

 

Obviously, the 360 is capable of playing Uncharted2 with some minor graphical adjustments but no change to the gameplay

Equally obvious, the babbage engine is unable to reproduce the gameplay of Uncharted 2.

 

Even more obvious, then, is the fact that there must be some cutoff. If we arranged all consoles in a line from least powerful to most, there must be one console that can reproduce the gameplay, levels etc of uncharted but with reduced graphics, and one less powerful console that cannot. The SNES has some excellent 3d games with a steady framerate, many enemies on screen and no problems with cutin distance - Super star wars Empire Strikes back landspeeder levels for example. I therefore propose that a game could be made that plays identically to Uncharted 2, with reduced graphics. It will obviously be able to store this on a consle, because the textures can just be simplified until it does. I would like this game pretty much as much as Uncharted 2. I'm not saying you have to, if you like games with good graphics then you shouldn't let anyone tell you that you're wrong.

 

@ Shoestar - if i am ignorant then I obviously shouldn't even dare respond to you. Your awesome intellect is of course too much for me. if you actually care about hearing my responses to your points, then edit your post and remove the section that calls me ignorant. Don't worry, I'm not going to report you to the mods or anything, so feel free to keep it there if you think it's all that important to insult someone who disagrees with you on the internet

 

 

I advice yu to abandon your argument immeadatly, otherwise you only ridicule yourself further.

Saying that you can get the Uncharted 1/2 feeling on a SNES ( no matter how optimized it is ) is the most ludicrous thing i ever heard. seriously, if you said PS1 / n 64 i would have sadi : OK, I CAN IMAGINE THAT ( regarding achievements like zelda oot ) but snes is just laughable.

You may make yourself a 'gameplay over graphics' fetishist as much as you want but if you insist on that point, you haven't gone throught it thoroughly enough.

greetz



How can 720p be considered HD when it looks like ugly snow grains on my 22'' screen?

 

 

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FaRmLaNd on 18 October 2009

And had they been developing for the 360/wii/DS/PSP/PC/iphone/any system ever they would say the same thing.

If you're going to develop something exclusively of course you're going to take advantage of that system. Otherwise whats the point?

And besides graphics really aren't that important. I mean if it was a wii game it'd have motion controls and the 360 is pretty similar in terms of graphical capabilities so a 360 exclusive wouldn't be hugely different really.



iBlah on 18 October 2009

In a time when everyone is bitching about complicity of PS3 hardware and throwing out 3+G of installation data to compensate for the blue ray disc reading speed, Naughty Dog manages to deliver this masterpiece which requires no installation and no in game loading screen, just one more reason why they are the best .



 

asacatman on 18 October 2009

Yes, it would be different game without the PS3. That statement is correct.


But seriously I wouldn't care if uncharted was on 360 PS3 or PC, or even Wii or PS2. It would not change the core gameplay or artstyle. (In fact the game might have been longer on the PS2 because it's easier to make big games that still have great grahics, so it would have been better.)

So his argument is just silly.

EDIT: it would have been good on the wii too with ir shooting, that would be better.



 

I blame Wii Fit...+!!!

d21lewis on 18 October 2009

Finished Uncharted 2 last night. Great game. Very polished. Did everything right and yes, it has he best console graphics ever.

But games like Tomb Raider Underworld, Gears of War 2, Lost Planet 2, Prince of Persia, and Resident Evil 5 are in it's league in one regard or another. Uncharted 2 just did what they do individually, all at once.

Don't kid yourselves by thinking that it re-invented the wheel. Amazing graphics, effects, jumping puzzles, multi-player, no load times, and cinematics are more common than you think WITHOUT a mandatory hard drive. U2 wouldn't be that different on 360/PC.



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GameAnalyser on 18 October 2009
scottie said:
Graphics do not make a game, gameplay/plot/controls/everything that's actually important does

Uncharted would have been the same game on the 360, Wii, xbox, GC, PS2, DC, 64, PS1. It could even have been done on the SNES actually, it was certainly capable.


SNES certainly missed u in the dev co-ordinator dept.



scottie on 18 October 2009
GameAnalyser said:
scottie said:
Graphics do not make a game, gameplay/plot/controls/everything that's actually important does

Uncharted would have been the same game on the 360, Wii, xbox, GC, PS2, DC, 64, PS1. It could even have been done on the SNES actually, it was certainly capable.


SNES certainly missed u in the dev co-ordinator dept.

Pardon?



eggs2see on 18 October 2009

No ones saying it re-invented the wheel? Everyone is raving about it similar to how people raved about cod4. cod4 did nothing new it just did what it did extremely well. And both are possibly the finest games of this generation. Halo 3 is in the same boat, nothing new (don't say forge) just did what it does very well.



GameAnalyser on 18 October 2009

@scottie

Uncharted 2 cud b certainly developed on SNES..how were u able to state so?



Carl on 18 October 2009

I love Naughty Dog.