What kind of argument is that? Every single game only sells to a portion of the userbase. It's like saying "it wouldn't matter if PS4/XBO didn't have  RDR2 because it only sells to less than 15% of the userbase." It's just a ridiculous argument.

Sony's quality exclusives are a big reason people are choosing the PS4 over the XBO. Are there other reasons? Sure. And varies from person to person, but exclusives are definitely in most people's Top 3 reasons.

Again, "I'm saying PS4 has a bigger appeal than its exclusives."

Which in itself is odd. It took MSFT over a decade to figure out you need games for a game console? However, it's a move in the right direction and we will have to wait and see what these companies are working on come E3. I personally hope it's on the same scale of commitment and investment as Sony shows with their titles.

Who cares, honestly? None of that was really part of the original argument put forth, thus making it a goal-post shifting logical fallacy anyway.

The point is. The consoles really aren't doing that anymore, not since console manufacturers abandoned semi-custom/custom processors.

The Xbox One X for example isn't doing anything I wouldn't expect out of a Radeon RX 580.

That will of course happen. It's called a "bad port". Doesn't mean the hardware is any less capable.

No they don't. Don't spread false information.

Let us take the Xbox One for example... It runs the Microsoft Windows 10 kernel, then a hypervisor with two partitions, one partition contains another software stack to run Xbox One games, the other for Universal Windows apps.

And of course it will run the Xbox 360 OS and OG Xbox OS as well depending on need.

The Xbox will of course also run Direct X 11 and 12 depending on what developers have opted for... And even has a low-level API.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_One_system_software

The Playstation 4 on the other hand leverages FreeBSD which is a PC operating system and runs with two graphics API's. Aka. gnm and gnmx...

Both consoles also have graphics drivers as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4_system_software

In short, both consoles are using monolithic PC operating Systems, with PC derived API's, graphics drivers and more.
Which means the Xbox One and Playstation 4 are CPU and memory hungry, reserving 1-2 CPU cores and 3GB+ of Ram, which is much more than Windows 7/10 will happily run with.

No one should care about minor hardware differences, the consumer won't notice the difference in a game... So it's more or less a problem for the developer.

I am not moving goal post , are you trying to move goalpost yourself by accusing someone moving goal post ??? 

It seems you afraid admitted that tdp, thermal , and dimension of physics object is  part of HARDWARE SPEC 

The fact consoles is a close system is just proves consoles is still consoles period. And also PS4 and Xbox One are indeed made using  "semi" costume processor LOL

I am not Saying PS4  hardware is less capable running the games using Linux , it's just PS4 when running  Steam games a need to work twice using Linux. That's not the case if the games is using GNMX on PS4 which is the proprietary of PS4 low level API.

Again, you are using Xbox as an example, Microsoft has been using directX api evn in their consoles that's why Xbox is bad example on how console can do. 

Then you mentioned GM and GNMX wich is low level API, so you have been arguing yourself lol.  

I think the reasoning is rather sound. I'd roughly estimate that 80-90% of games sold are 3rd party games. Exclusives are great and do add value to a console but they're not a sole reason why a person will choose one console over the other. My Friends picked xbox first this gen simply because I did despite historically being Playstation gamers (One has both now while the other simply just got a Switch). I'd even put price above it.

Now you are trying to employ circular logic which is also a logical fallacy.
You aren't off to a good start here.
Two logical fallacies in a row.

The PC has different operating requirements than consoles, thus making TDP, Thermal, Dimensions and so forth an irrelevant aspect.
And again, those aspects weren't part of the original argument put forth.

At the end of the day the Playstation 4 is not doing anything that I wouldn't expect a Radeon 7850/7870 to handle.
And at the end of the day the Xbox One X is not doing anything that I wouldn't expect a Radeon RX 580 to handle.

More than happy to provide more evidence to prove that fact.

It completely undermines the "console optimization secret sauce". - Which was once true before the PC got more efficient software (Direct X 12, Mantle, Vulkan, Improved Drivers, Windows 10 enhancements and more.) and consoles got more PC-like (PC API's, OS's and Hardware.)

I mean heck. The Playstation 4 still needs separate Ram and a separate ARM CPU just to handle background tasks in conjunction with the reserved Ram and CPU cores for the OS stuff. - And you think the PC is inefficient? At-least Microsoft isn't as wasteful in that regard with the Xbox, but still far from ideal.

If you want to get technical, the consoles ARE a PC. A PC being a "Personal Computer".

The Playstation 4 and Xbox One are derived from technology that AMD designed primarily for the PC.

The chips thus have more in common with a desktop AMD APU than not, that's the real facts.

You need to provide the evidence that Steam games running on linux need to "work twice" (Whatever the hell that means!)

GNMX is basically a group of wrappers that sits on top of GNM to make life easier for developers, it's essentially comparable to Direct X 11 from a developers end point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4_system_software#System

The more you know.

Xbox has a low level API. It's not all just Direct X.

False.

What logical fallacy here??? Care to explain the reason 

" The PC has different operating requirements than consoles, thus making TDP, Thermal, Dimensions and so forth an irrelevant aspect.
And again, those aspects weren't part of the original argument put forth."

So now you admitted consoles is different from PC LOL 

This the evidence on how Ps4 turn into PC and run games like crap  because an OS like Linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rct6tHdN5No 

Imagine if it's able to run  Windows and run game using Windows it will even be slower , despite the games running well on slower consoles A.K.A Xbox One.

Wikipedia about GNM and GNMX 

" Another key area of the game is its programmable pixel shaders.^[8] Sony's own PlayStation Shader Language (PSSL) was introduced to the PlayStation 4.^[9] It has been suggested^{[by whom?]} that the PlayStation Shader Language is very similar to the HLSL standard in DirectX 11, with just subtle differences that could be eliminated for the most part through preprocessor macros.^[8]

"Sony’s own custom API is more low-level and definitely something that graphics programmers love. It gives you a lot of control. DirectX 12 will be a bit more abstract because it has to work with many different GPUs, while the PS4 API can go down to the metal,” he said. It is important to clarify and note here that Wolfgang's this statement does not mean that Microsoft's DirectX 12 is of no good. In fact he believes that the upcoming API will surely turn out to be great for the Xbox One console." https://wccftech.com/ps4-api-graphics-programmers-love-specific-gpu-optimizations-improve-performance/

Please elaborates why i am wrong, you did not help yourself here. I am done with your bias on consoles. You are not expert or even game developer, many smart people are not agreeing with your bias. I am myself a PC and console that never underestimates console nor any game developer has ever underestimates consoles.

Good day to you mate 

No you aren't and shouldn't pretend that is what you made when you go "just a part of the userbase plays the exclusives", it was made to downplay it.

But I would love to see these plenty of other appeals PS4 have over Xbox that justify it being over double the userbase.

I said in a different post the mistakes made by MS early likely played a roll in PS4's momentum this generation. 360 benefitted greatly from PS3's mistakes, right?

And again, PS4's lead isnt just because of the exclusives. They dont sell well enough for that to be the case.

Not sure what you really disagree with.