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No more 1000 year old dragons trapped in teenage girl bodies.



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Didn't realize the topic/article was regarding UNDERAGE looking girls. Well that's a different story then.. You can (mostly) disregard what I said prior then. Guess I shouldn't be so quick to jump the gun :P

Though I do still feel there seems to be a growing problem w/censorship in gaming as a whole.



 

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SpokenTruth said:
LivingMetal said:
This has never been a problem so it should not be a problem now.

Slavery wasn't a problem before so it shouldn't not be a problem now.  Right?

Or should we not mature as a society?

Are you seriously conflating slavery with risque images of make believe women?



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SpokenTruth said:
LivingMetal said:
This has never been a problem so it should not be a problem now.

Slavery wasn't a problem before so it shouldn't not be a problem now.  Right?

Or should we not mature as a society?

and you accuse us of bad analogies...



SpokenTruth said:
KLXVER said:

and you accuse us of bad analogies...

Now I accuse you of not understanding analogies.

Yeah, because slavery never hurt anyone...



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Trying to work out why they are deciding to do so now? They never had to in the past and this is just opening up the competition to look more attractive if they offer the choice of the uncut versions. At least have an option to switch it on and off. Don't just permanently sensor the games because on a locked platform like PS, Modders wont be able to offer an alternative.



Ganoncrotch said:
o_O.Q said:

you missed the most relevant part - that the sexual revolution will be undone by feminists... you know... the people who are supposed to be advocating for the freedom of women?

"this will certainly lure out all the neckbeards"

what is a neckbeard?

A neckbeard is a derogatory term for a gamer, it's a negative term used by people who do not participate in the media being discussed in an attempt to make the enjoyers of said media appear to be unkept and not clean shaven.

This whole thing is the same as 5 years ago when it initially blew up badly, you have people who have never and will never buy games trying to dictate what they should play like for those who do play them, I think of it like me and the Twilight series of movies, they depict violence and abuse against the female protagonist and I don't get why they exist or have the fandom, but there is a large audience of bean flickers who love the way Edward keeps his lady in check so the movies made a ton of cash. Good on the studio imo for creating a product that sells and people wanted, regardless of the content, there was a demand and the studio fulfilled it. That's how consumerism works.

ah ok fair enough, sounds like when "virgin" gets thrown around to silence opposition to some of the cancerous elements of ideologies like feminism



SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

men are typically depicted in video games as disposable to a far greater extent than women are, if your argument is that depictions of either gender in video games must be positive then its rather bizarre that the issue of male disposability doesn't seem to be on your radar(well not really since i understand how the ideology works far better than most of its proponents funny enough)

but regardless if the argument is narrowed down to presentation only, well men are idealised in terms of their designs just as much as women are

but people who are infested with the equality doctrine just dishonesty hand wave this away as "male power fantasy" without acknowledging that to be sexy and to be desired is an ideal for women just as much as being strong and powerful is an ideal for men

but obviously they can't acknowledge that, if at the base of their perception is the stupid idea that men and women are the same and have the exact same motivations and drives can they?

I'm still waiting for that valid comparison.

so clarify this for me, male disposability is not a concern for you as a male feminist ally?

with regards to "sexualisation"(a word that means nothing) the way the discourse on that is framed within the social justice context is so stupid that i suppose its pointless for me to try to discuss that



SpokenTruth said:
KLAMarine said:

"What? You mean they are going to be more conscious about how 50% of the population is depicted in their games now?"

1). Plenty hunks of muscle running around taking hundreds of bullets in video games.

I don't look anything like those masses of muscle and I'm pretty sure I'd have a very hard time with taking even one bullet.

I'm not complaining though.

"But what about me? Why didn't they think about how I would feel about how the opposite sex is depicted?"

2). Well there are plenty consumers with varying tastes but if there's policy that curtails certain tastes, those tastes will go elsewhere to find it. This should be taken into consideration before enacting such policy.

1). Do a large percentage of the male population consider those as negative depictions of men?

2). I think you missed my sarcasm.

"Do a large percentage of the male population consider those as negative depictions of men?"

can you give some examples of the negative depictions of females you are referring to?



twintail said:
shikamaru317 said:

You do realize that games that feature no underage characters have already been affected by this policy change, right? Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 has no underage girls for instance, and the latest PS4 version of that game is censored in Japan compared to the Switch version. 

These are digital characters so actual age is irrelevant. Marie Rose might be 18 according to Tecmo but I think its easily arguable that she looks younger. The stuff taken out is basically creep territory. If you have an issue with not being able to get an upskirt glimpse then sure it is annoying.

S.Peelman said:

While I was half joking, and mostly responding to the original title of this thread, you’ve got to wonder where this arbitrary line is going to be drawn and how many “exceptions†there are going to be. And, whether or not Sony is going to be strickt on themselves as well or if they are going to be hypocritical. Time will tell I guess.

For the record though, at the end of the day I don’t give  a sh*t about any of this.

No, that is a fair point, my apologies. Ideally, there would be no censorship at all. Hopefully, it doesn't move beyond underage stuff.

KLXVER said:

What does that even mean? Sony doesn't make those kinda games anymore, so we have to look at what third parties cant show. I don't work at Tecmo either, but we know who are responsible for the DOA Xtreme censorship on the PS4. 

Maybe Sony should learn to tell people to use the appropriate age rating instead of telling them what to make.

It means that if you actual have direct evidence that it was a Sony censorship issue, then present it. DMC5 censoring was in the Western release only (and not the Japanese)  which is not even in line with the policy, which affects all regions. It is just as likely that Capcom themselves misread the policy and took it upon themselves to do it (since the base game doesn't have the censoring at all). We dont know, at least I havent checked up on the latest about it.

If that's the case, then fair enough. I have less of a problem with companies choosing to censor their own games.