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According to everyone who was ever in charge of hiring her, they did not know of her claims of ancestry. (One of them suspects it was discussed but he can't remember for sure).

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/09/01/did-claiming-native-american-heritage-actually-help-elizabeth-warren-get-ahead-but-complicated/wUZZcrKKEOUv5Spnb7IO0K/story.html

"One area that 30 of the 31 [Harvard professors who had a hand in hiring her] interviewed by the Globe agreed on: There was no talk about her Native American claims during the meetings over her appointment. One professor emeritus, Lloyd Weinreb, said he believes her Native American ancestry was discussed. But, in an e-mail he questioned his own recollection: “I am not sure enough for you to rely on me,” he wrote."



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thismeintiel said:
Mbolibombo said:
Trump asks her to take a DNA test to prove her ancestry. She does just that and it turns out she is right correct,
Trumpski denies everything, say he didnt say anything like it despite that it's even on video. So who is pathetic? the one who is lying on a daily basis or the one who did what Trump asked her about?

Rest of the world is laughing at the circus that is american politics and especially it's chief in command.

By her standard, everyone should be claiming they are Native American.  Or Asian.  Or Black.  Or whatever minority that you have less than 2% in your blood.  Also, he said he would ask her to do it on the debate stage if she won the nomination and, here's the kicker you guys like to ignore, it proved she was the actual NA.  Not had NA ancestry WAY back, which a lot of Americans do.  You know, like she claimed in her life when it benefited her.

So, yea, she still is the pathetic one.

Oh boy....  You are actually believing in what you are writing.

I should have known better when entering a thismeintel thread.



Mr_Destiny said:

According to everyone who was ever in charge of hiring her, they did not know of her claims of ancestry. (One of them suspects it was discussed but he can't remember for sure).

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/09/01/did-claiming-native-american-heritage-actually-help-elizabeth-warren-get-ahead-but-complicated/wUZZcrKKEOUv5Spnb7IO0K/story.html

"One area that 30 of the 31 [Harvard professors who had a hand in hiring her] interviewed by the Globe agreed on: There was no talk about her Native American claims during the meetings over her appointment. One professor emeritus, Lloyd Weinreb, said he believes her Native American ancestry was discussed. But, in an e-mail he questioned his own recollection: “I am not sure enough for you to rely on me,” he wrote."

Yea, I highly doubt that, considering this was a time when universities were under great pressure to diversity hire.  It doesn't help that she was touted as Harvard's first woman of color. 

Mbolibombo said:
thismeintiel said:

By her standard, everyone should be claiming they are Native American.  Or Asian.  Or Black.  Or whatever minority that you have less than 2% in your blood.  Also, he said he would ask her to do it on the debate stage if she won the nomination and, here's the kicker you guys like to ignore, it proved she was the actual NA.  Not had NA ancestry WAY back, which a lot of Americans do.  You know, like she claimed in her life when it benefited her.

So, yea, she still is the pathetic one.

Oh boy....  You are actually believing in what you are writing.

I should have known better when entering a thismeintel thread.

Yea, I get it.  I just destroyed your position with facts, so you have nowhere to go but attack me.  It's ok, you'll get me next time.



All this heritage nonsense is bullshit anyway. Who your distant ancestors were shouldn't matter one bit for you. I don't care if your great great great grandpa was killed, raped, enslaved or got his land taken away. That shit has nothing to do with you and I won't respect you any more or less for it, let alone pay you reparations or give you special rights. You've done shit and mooching off of what your ancestors did or have suffered for is despicable.



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pokoko said:
Jumpin said:
This is the problem with the US. You guys focus on a person’s race or gender more than their policies. Your priorities are the real joke.

I guess we can't all be like Germany, where a person's race has never been an issue.

How is that relevant or helpful to this conversation?



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Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Jumpin said:
This is the problem with the US. You guys focus on a person’s race or gender more than their policies. Your priorities are the real joke.

But this is a person who has gone through life claiming minority status and getting special treatment because of it. There's a reason people are focusing on her race.

That's exactly why this minority bullshit needs to stop, it's moronic. It should be about your merits and actions as a person, regardless of your heritage. We're actually calculating genetics now to determine what a a person deserves? It's ironic that this leftist nonsense has actually brought about the height of racism. But they need this conflict to never stop in order to have their platform.



My parents used to tell me that while our countries politics were shitty, there are countries with better standards where corruption and hypocrisy don't reign supreme and they talked about US. They made it seem like it was this Uber powerful nation that had the entire world in it's grasp and were much farther ahead in tech than any other country and their military was so powerful but everyone was accountable and they made no distinction between president and poor person. Now I realise that they were highly mistaken or they were trolling me cause this country is so damn d'corript, they have am archaic 3 party system where both parties are corrupt, hypocritical and ruled by oligarchs. Their military is the strongest but is also kind of a joke(if you find militaries killing innocent people in foreign lands funny) and they are no longer the leader in tech, They have a horrible healthcare and education system and their infrastructure is just horrible. Also they act like cartoon caricatures of themselves for some reason. Now I can only laugh in disbelief at the stupidity of America and the naiveté of my parents/ or the awesome way they trolled me

 

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Jumpin said:
This is the problem with the US. You guys focus on a person’s race or gender more than their policies. Your priorities are the real joke.

She gets mocked because she apparently used her itty bit of indian heritage to help her get opportunities. Hence, it looks bad on her credibility.

Basically, its kinda like a very white person saying they're black to take an opportunity that might have been skewed to get people of color. If you're a member of political party that essentially panders to people of color (she's a democrat), your opponents are gonna mention it.

As far as her policies go, she's a hack.



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vivster said:
All this heritage nonsense is bullshit anyway. Who your distant ancestors were shouldn't matter one bit for you. I don't care if your great great great grandpa was killed, raped, enslaved or got his land taken away. That shit has nothing to do with you and I won't respect you any more or less for it, let alone pay you reparations or give you special rights. You've done shit and mooching off of what your ancestors did or have suffered for is despicable.

Shhh... democrats need those arguments to pander for votes.



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Eagle367 said:
My parents used to tell me that while our countries politics were shitty, there are countries with better standards where corruption and hypocrisy don't reign supreme and they talked about US. They made it seem like it was this Uber powerful nation that had the entire world in it's grasp and were much farther ahead in tech than any other country and their military was so powerful but everyone was accountable and they made no distinction between president and poor person. Now I realise that they were highly mistaken or they were trolling me cause this country is so damn d'corript, they have am archaic 3 party system where both parties are corrupt, hypocritical and ruled by oligarchs. Their military is the strongest but is also kind of a joke(if you find militaries killing innocent people in foreign lands funny) and they are no longer the leader in tech, They have a horrible healthcare and education system and their infrastructure is just horrible. Also they act like cartoon caricatures of themselves for some reason. Now I can only laugh in disbelief at the stupidity of America and the naiveté of my parents/ or the awesome way they trolled me

I'm sorry the US isn't the utopia you believed? But lets remember it grew from of other corrupt nations.

We have an "archaic" two party system, not 3. Power tends to be corrupt, that's nothing new. This is something many developed nations deal with from time to time and why political shifts happens to some other "archaic" party.

The military is indeed strong and innocent people die. That's war! The innocent always suffer most.

Our healthcare isn't horrible, generally speaking far from it. The real problems is costs and not everybody has a good healthcare plan. These are different arguments.

We spend a fortune on our education system, almost the most in the world. The problem is the parents suck. But solution by the left is more money.

If your parents sold you the US is a utopia, they weren't bright people. Frankly I never argue the US is best or a perfect country, but its certainly a much better place then where most immigrants come from. I don't know anything about your parents but maybe they held the US in high regard because they came from a shit country?



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