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VGPolyglot said:

And this is how, despite the laws supposedly being equal, that in reality sexism still exists. Because you want to blame the woman for being raped by her husband, and your logic is essentially that they shouldn't have married them if they didn't want to get raped. Well, guess what? Most people that are raped, the perpetrator is someone they know! Ans a quarter of people, it's their spouse/former spouse.

In WHAT universe do I want to blame women for being raped? Why do I have to repeat 100 times the same thing? NO ONE Should be raped and a woman raped is the victim obviously, who nowadays could think that if you are raped that it's your fault?

I'm going back to my original argument: I'm ONLY saying, if you don't want to have sex with someone, DO NOT MARRY THEM. I don't wanna have sex with that big fat hairy dude that is my neighbor, so guess what I will NEVER DO?... Marry him.

Should I marry him and he puts a huge streetlight pole up my ass, I am STILL the victim YES, but I still was the idiot that married him.

So no, what you say is NOT my logic.

Last edited by CrazyGamer2017 - on 07 April 2018

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CrazyGamer2017 said:
sundin13 said:

So we are just sliding right into victim blaming? Like domestic violence boggles your mind so much that you are basically saying that it is the woman's fault for marrying someone who raped her.

And they you just casually move into an analogy in which you compare marriage to someone owning goods.

Yeah, piss off mate.

Oh what's up your butt?

First you ignore my last line, I'm not against such laws and I am just arguing about the logic nothing more, second, read my signature and F*** Off.

No, that last sentence does not in any way excuse any of the things you said.

You cannot blame a woman for getting raped and then think that everything is fine because you say the man should get punished too. You are still saying that the woman is at fault for being raped. You have presented quite possibly one of the clearest examples of victim blaming I have ever seen someone seriously push, and again, right before using a metaphor comparing a woman to purchasable goods.

And you further double down later:

"But you said "I DO", so yeah, take some responsibility if you say "I DO"..."

Just let that sit for a moment. In this context, you just said "take some responsibility for GETTING RAPED".

There is no weaseling out of those statements. You can say "laws should protect the victim", but at the end of the day, you are still throwing up that asterisk which says "but it is still their fault".



RolStoppable said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

I'm freely speaking my mind responding to other people that freely speak their mind, in what universe do I not handle free speech?

You are showing clear signs of being offended by other people disagreeing with your point of view.

Really? The guy ignores half of my message and becomes aggressive by telling me to piss off cause I speak my mind freely and I am offended.

I only reacted to him being offended and aggressive. Or did you not read his message I responded to?

You guys are really at war with logic and basic language convention tonight, it's really not helping the argument you know?



CrazyGamer2017 said:
VGPolyglot said:

And this is how, despite the laws supposedly being equal, that in reality sexism still exists. Because you want to blame the woman for being raped by her husband, and your logic is essentially that they shouldn't have married them if they didn't want to get raped. Well, guess what? Most people that are raped, the perpetrator is someone they know! Ans a quarter of people, it's their spouse/former spouse.

In WHAT universe do I want to blame women for being raped? Why do I have to repeat 100 times the same thing? NO ONE Should be raped and a woman raped is the victim obviously, who nowadays could think that if you are raped that it's your fault?

I'm going back to my original argument: I'm ONLY saying, if you don't want to have sex with someone, DO NOT MARRY THEM. I don't wanna have sex with that big fat hair dude that is my neighbor, so guess what I will NEVER DO?... Marry him.

Should I marry him and he puts a huge streetlight pole up my ass, I am STILL the victim YES, but I still was the idiot that married him.

So no, what you say is NOT my logic.

Yes, it's exactly your logic, and you just doubled down on it right there.



sundin13 said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Oh what's up your butt?

First you ignore my last line, I'm not against such laws and I am just arguing about the logic nothing more, second, read my signature and F*** Off.

No, that last sentence does not in any way excuse any of the things you said.

You cannot blame a woman for getting raped and then think that everything is fine because you say the man should get punished too. You are still saying that the woman is at fault for being raped. You have presented quite possibly one of the clearest examples of victim blaming I have ever seen someone seriously push, and again, right before using a metaphor comparing a woman to purchasable goods.

And you further double down later:

"But you said "I DO", so yeah, take some responsibility if you say "I DO"..."

Just let that sit for a moment. In this context, you just said "take some responsibility for GETTING RAPED".

There is no weaseling out of those statements. You can say "laws should protect the victim", but at the end of the day, you are still throwing up that asterisk which says "but it is still their fault".

Yeah, except I NEVER blamed that woman getting raped to begin with. I never said she's at fault either, so yeah there goes your argument.

and you are making up stuff, where did I say take responsibility for getting raped??? I said and very CLEARLY take responsibility for getting married in the first place.

Again like I said to others, if you are going to change words and read "rape" where I write "marry", you are making this convo impossible.

Also I'm not weaseling out of NOTHING. You even said I'm doubling down which I am because I know what I said, you simply choose to read what you want to read then you judge.

But I'm NOT backing out of what I said, I will triple down if I have to. and if you and others don't get it then too bad for you guys. What's next? me saying Germany is a nice country and you accusing me of defending nazism?



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berzerkertank said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

No I don't understand it.

"Hello, honey. I just got back from work, and I would like to have sex with you."
"I'm sorry dear, but I would not like to have sex with you today."
"I did not ask if you'd like to have sex."

You're a goddamn brainlet, my guy.

I was wondering in this bunch of PC guys, where was the guy that takes ONE line out of a huge bunch of stuff that I said to take it out of context. And... there you are.



CrazyGamer2017 said:

and you are making up stuff, where did I say take responsibility for getting raped??? I said and very CLEARLY take responsibility for getting married in the first place.

Okay, I'll give you a moment to try to explain what the hell that means.

You marry someone and they rape you. How do you "take responsibility" for marrying them in this context without venturing down a path of victim blaming.



the-pi-guy said:
o_O.Q said:
what did you think the goal of ideologies like feminism was?

to empower women/people? lol

What do you think the goal of feminism is?

The bold is funny, because it has a long history of doing just that.  

It empowered women, then marginalized men. Problem with all these social movements is that once equality is achieved you still have billions of dollars and millions of people invested in them, so they keep having to move the needle, which in the case of feminism is at the expense of men. Now we need a quota of Oscar awards for women and minorities, because there's really nothing worthwhile left to fight for. Feminism is really just the equivalent of corporate lobbyists for women. 



The trend is undeniable. Unfortunately, many of the sick elites who run the big tech companies and governments have this twisted view that there are too many humans on the earth and that even the very air we exhale is a toxic chemical (this is why so many of Europe's leftist leaders have no kids). If you don't believe me, take a look at the Georgia Guidestones, the earth's population is to be maintained under 500 million according to their targets. Every good exterminator knows that if you want to wipe out a species, you need to target it's reproduction mechanism. As a result, the media, universities and pretty much every big corporation and government out there has put forth a concerted effort to destroy traditional definitions of marriage and morality causing a systemic reduction in new births, increase in abortions, and increase in single parent families whose children are much more likely to be dependent on the state making them easier to control.

The fact is that without both a mother and a father, raising a family is very hard and it's a lot easier just not have kids. Raising well-adjusted kids who are independent and productive is even harder without a strong family unit and those are exactly the kinds of young people that the elites are most afraid of. Nothing scares billionaires like George Soros more than a person who has been raised with a keen sense of right and wrong and who can hear the message from CNN and turn it off immediately knowing that it is damaging propaganda meant to create a cult-like society where the ultra rich have complete control those below them and all freedom is gone from society.



Player2 said:
EnricoPallazzo said:
What about the data for white people, why does it stop on the 90's?

Because skin color wasn't enough to separate "us" from everybody else, so more criteria was added.

So I believe it is "white non spanish" right?

Man I hate this kind of thing... here in UK I must declare as mixed - white and non caribean african - other... wtf?