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Should Goku Join Smash 5?

Yes 32 44.44%
 
No 38 52.78%
 
Broly 2 2.78%
 
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Snoorlax said:
killeryoshis said:

When Melee came out. Smash was seen as a celebration of Nintendo characters' history.
When Brawl came out Smash was seen as a celebration of characters that appeared on Nintendo systems.
When Smash 4 came out Smash was seen as a celebration of Video game history
When Smash 5 comes out Smash was seen as a celebration of characters that appeared in Video games.

Well, Goku checks out in terms of that. Nintendo has been breaking their own rules for Smash for a while. They just have been doing it a step at a time. I wouldn't be surprised if Goku came to smash but I would be laughing at all the responses.

Honestly, I don't care anymore. Ever since Cloud came to Smash I saw that now anyone can be in Smash.

Really? That's when you realized anything goes in Smash? You should have been around when Snake showed up in the Brawl trailers.

Simpleton said:
I've seen a lot of horror movies but seeing how many people unironiclly voted yes for Goku in Smash genuinely disturbs me in a way I haven't been disturbed before.

While we're at it, let's add Shrek and Squidward to the mix. Smash needs to branch out right?

Dude it's just a game.

Simpleton said:
Are we actually using Cloud as an excuse for Goku?

Cloud is an icon for a long lasting series that has a big ties with Nintendo. Goku represents nothing.

Well Cloud is mostly known in the hardcore videogame community, Goku is known in pretty much every community out there. 

Jumpin said:
Why not Chrono? At least he’s a similar looking video game character and not some obscure Japanimation character from the 60s or 70s.

LOL! Seriously the irony in your comment is unreal.

Goku's creator, Akira Toriyama, is the same guy who designed the characters in Chrono Trigger and Dragon Quest and he was chosen for this because of his highly succesful masterpiece Dragon Ball. So if anything Chrono is the obscure videogame character and should bow down to Goku.

Azuren said:

Cloud is an icon that represents Square turning their back on Nintendo. Perfect fit for Smash.

Exactly, i'll admit that I found Cloud's inclusion pretty cool but at the same time a dumb move by Nintendo including one of the main backstabbers when they most needed them. Not only that, Square turned their backs on Nintendo ever since and never gave them another mainline FF game, we've yet to see if the FF 7 Remake will ever make it to Nintendo consoles which seems even more unlikely.  

berzerkertank said:
It would be pretty cool if Goku got put into Smash, but I'm against it because it'll open the gateway for a bunch of other animu/mango characters to be continuously be asked to be put into Smash. The only Shounen series I've regularly watched/read is Jojo and Hero Academia, and I'm not okay with having Jotaro or Deku going up in a fight against Mario, Link, Sonic, or any Smash character.
Except Captain Falcon, because that would be fucking sick.

The only other anime character who rivals Goku's popularity on a global scale is Pikachu, whom is already present in Smash so i really don't think other anime characters like Luffy or Naruto will make it into Smash. 

Goremichel said:
YES for Goku, but the force, the mighty from goku is extremly. Nobody has a chance xDDD

Remember Kirby can copy his ability and he might stand a chance with a Kamehameha clash!

Jumpin said:

Lucina, Shulk, Samus, and the others are all Nintendo characters. They’re supposed to be in Nintendo games about Nintendo characters. Not obscure Japanamation character from some even more obscure cult of 10,000 Americans who have decided to speak a dead language!

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Yerm said:

ive seen more memes and ironic joke threads about Dragon Ball than anything else, and i would argue a big chunk of its brand recognition stems from that. not to mention people have been pretty critical of the more recent incarnations of the show, and most of the games in general. im sure it wasnt always like this, but its at a point where i cant take it seriously

you bring up pokemon, which is and has been the biggest cultural phenomenon of the modern era since Red and Blue were released. every game in the main series receives critical acclaim, it has its own store chain, entire networks of website, TCG leagues, and communities who actually play the games and discuss it in an organized manner. all beyond anything ive seen from Dragon Ball. 

Yeah i can tell you don't know much about Dragon Ball. Most of those recent memes and jokes are aimed at Dragon Ball Super and i'll be honest with you... I don't watch that shit.

The fact that Dragon Ball Z has so many videogames, animes, trading cards, toys and is known worldwide is because it's a really good show. 1984 - 1997 was the Dragon Ball golden age in Japan, 1999 - 2004 was the golden age in the rest of the world. I'm telling you it's really that good and most of the kids here don't seem to like it simply because it's anime, apparantely anime is for weirdos and pedophiles. Even if you don't like anime you should give Dragon Ball 1986 a watch.

HoangNhatAnh said:

Actually, Cloud have appeared on Nintendo systems before became DLC for Smash 4, Kingdom Hearts Re:coded on DS, Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories  on GBA, Theatrhythm Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy Explorer on 3ds

Yes, but none of them are Final Fantasy 7 which is the game Cloud's design was based on in Smash 4 not from spinoffs. Goku has been pretty much on every Nintendo consoles since the NES back when they renamed it Dragon Power!!!

S.Peelman said:
Would be so weird to see Goku getting his ass handed to him by like... Yoshi or something.

Yeah i cringe everytime i see Ganondorf get his ass handed to him by Jigglypuff and not only that, but in terms of tier list Ganondorf is actually one of the weaker guys of the whole game!

Doesn't change the fact he have appeared on Nintendo systems before and use Cloud's design in FFVII is the easiest way to recognize him, also, Cloud in Theatrhythm Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy Explorer have the same clothes as Cloud in Super Smash



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They would go with kid Goku. Can't wait to see him getting destroyed by jigglypuff.



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berzerkertank said:
Jumpin said:

Lucina, Shulk, Samus, and the others are all Nintendo characters. They’re supposed to be in Nintendo games about Nintendo characters. Not obscure Japanamation character from some even more obscure cult of 10,000 Americans who have decided to speak a dead language!

>japanese
>dead language
Boy do I have some bad news for you.
Plus I can guarantee that you could walk up to just about any American under 40, and if you asked them who Goku was, then they would know who you're talking about.

I asked fourteen different American tourists ranging in age from 20 to 35 who the Latin hero Goku was, and none of them knew what I was talking about. I clarified that it was Japanese speaking Latins, and they were even more confused.

One also pulled a gun on me and threatened to shoot me in the face. But that was from an unrelated pickpocketing incident.



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There is no rule anywhere that says Smash can only contain characters that originated on a Nintendo console (obvious) or that they originated in a video game. Goku is a pop culture figure, regardless of the level of downplay from some other people here and there on the internet. It makes sense to include Goku if they want to continue expanding the roster outside of their original purview. Hell, perhaps they will give us an announcement at E3 that DBFZ is coming to the Switch... and that Goku is gonna be in that AND Smash.



Yes! With Goku and BotW I may forget the dissapointment it was the Wii U version.



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Simpleton said:
Snoorlax said:

Dude it's just a game.

Is hyperbole dead?

Really though, there's no argument for Goku in Smash other than "I want him" as he simply isn't a video game character. Popularity won't help that case or we would've had Luke Skywalker by now and wouldn't have had Duck Hunt Dog.

I'm pretty sure nobody asked for Cloud to join Smash 4 as a late DLC. Popularity was not how he got in but rather a behind the scenes deal between Nintendo and SquareEnix many of us speculate (or dream) that FF 7 Remake port makes it to Switch which probably won't happen anyways.

Bayonetta is a character that made it because of popularity and won the ballot which i honestly find hard to believe myself but i voted for her as well so i'm just glad she made it.

Neodegenerate said:
There is no rule anywhere that says Smash can only contain characters that originated on a Nintendo console (obvious) or that they originated in a video game. Goku is a pop culture figure, regardless of the level of downplay from some other people here and there on the internet. It makes sense to include Goku if they want to continue expanding the roster outside of their original purview. Hell, perhaps they will give us an announcement at E3 that DBFZ is coming to the Switch... and that Goku is gonna be in that AND Smash.

That is exactly what i'm waiting for them to do it's the best way to end this years' E3 with a bang.

Pavolink said:
Yes! With Goku and BotW I may forget the dissapointment it was the Wii U version.

I hope they port Smash 4 to Switch with all the DLC's eventually.



Can't lie, Goku would be sick.

 



Omg that would be awesome. Nice idea.



Azuren said:
spemanig said:

Perhaps, but he's had even more time not being a video game character

He really hasn't.

What he has been is not a video game character.



Jumpin said:
berzerkertank said:

>japanese
>dead language
Boy do I have some bad news for you.
Plus I can guarantee that you could walk up to just about any American under 40, and if you asked them who Goku was, then they would know who you're talking about.

I asked fourteen different American tourists ranging in age from 20 to 35 who the Latin hero Goku was, and none of them knew what I was talking about. I clarified that it was Japanese speaking Latins, and they were even more confused.

One also pulled a gun on me and threatened to shoot me in the face. But that was from an unrelated pickpocketing incident.

I
You
What?
What the fuck are you talking about? You sound like you're drunk or something.
Latin hero Goku. What? Where do you live?



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