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Is Russia closer to causing a massive War than North Korea or even the United States?

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spurgeonryan said:

Unlike North Korea they continuously act out actual events that are terrible. The leader seems more insane than Trump and the guy in North Korea,  and they are implied in many other destructive acts. 

Or are they just worse at hiding their acts unlike America and China?

 

What should be done about this country that has been a loose cannon for a century?

Nothing.

 

North Korea is an independent state they ought not now to anyone. Same goes for russia. All of the destruction I've seen since my teenage years has come in the form of American interventions etc



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ArnoldRimmer said:
Final-Fan said:

At the power level of the USA, Russia, and some others, which one is "more powerful" has little to do with "likelihood of causing a massive war".  Did you really need me to tell you that? 

Every year or so, there is a worldwide poll asking the people which country they believe to be the biggest threat to world peace.

The US always comes first, usually by a huuuuge margin. In 2017, "Pew Research Center" did a similar poll, but they only asked people from 30 countries, that were almost exclusively close US allies, and they reduced the possible answers to China, Russia and the US. And yet, the US still came first...

The US is the most aggressive country, and also causes the most strife and instability in developing nations. Look at how badly the US has failed at handling things in South East Asia and West Asia.



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McDonaldsGuy said:
the-pi-guy said:

Once again, pretending that nothing happened in the past 6 years.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/08/08/ten-reasons-the-u-s-and-russia-are-at-odds/?utm_term=.3c6ab515aca2

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/03/25/obama_regional_power_russia_is_no_threat_to_us.html
Obama: "Regional Power" Russia Is No Threat to U.S.

Obama said after the Ukraine invasion Russia is not a threat to the USA and was a "regional power." So why did he say that?

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/30/world/europe/us-says-russia-tested-missile-despite-treaty.html?_r=0

Obama ignored Russia's violations of the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (while simultaneously negotiating New START).

Obama would not only say Russia wasn't a threat, but he would routinely mock anyone who suggested otherwise. "The traditional divisions between nations of the south and the north make no sense in an interconnected world nor do alignments of nations rooted in the cleavages of a long-gone Cold War." - Obama at U.N. General Assembly 2009

Listen, we're not starting another Iraq War got it? Too many people died there, and even more people will die if we go to war with Russia.

If we go to war with Russia will you at least sign up for service?

No one is planning for war with Russia. 

Just because they are a threat to Ukraine doesnt mean they are a threat to the US.  The US is in no danger from Russia.  

 

If I'm a threat to someone next to me, that doesn't mean I'm a threat to someone on the other side of the planet.  



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the-pi-guy said:

No one is planning for war with Russia. 

Just because they are a threat to Ukraine doesnt mean they are a threat to the US.  The US is in no danger from Russia.  

 

If I'm a threat to someone next to me, that doesn't mean I'm a threat to someone on the other side of the planet.  

BS. This is Iraq War 2.0 except 10 times worse.

AIPAC wants it's war with Russia and Syria and they will get it. As I said, Iraq War 2.0.

And the lies are even bigger. "The US is in no danger from Russia" then WHAT THE HELL IS THIS COLLUSION/RUSSIAN HACKING/MEDDLING BS ABOUT?



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It's not Russia that needs to die to preserve world peace, it's Putin.

The bastard needs to die slowly and painfully for all the grief he's caused in and outside of the country.



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McDonaldsGuy said:
the-pi-guy said:

No one is planning for war with Russia. 

Just because they are a threat to Ukraine doesnt mean they are a threat to the US.  The US is in no danger from Russia.  

 

If I'm a threat to someone next to me, that doesn't mean I'm a threat to someone on the other side of the planet.  

BS. This is Iraq War 2.0 except 10 times worse.

AIPAC wants it's war with Russia and Syria and they will get it. As I said, Iraq War 2.0.

And the lies are even bigger. "The US is in no danger from Russia" then WHAT THE HELL IS THIS COLLUSION/RUSSIAN HACKING/MEDDLING BS ABOUT?

You know at the end of the Little Boy who cried Wolf, the wolf did come.  

Once again things change.  Just because your wife said she was fine yesterday, doesn't mean she is today.  Just because she said she isn't fine today, doesn't mean she lied yesterday.  Things change.  

 

None of your Obama quotes or Hillary Clinton quotes or anything else from 2012 disprove anything about Russia in 2018.  The only thing it might do is give us reason to question something, but it doesn't disprove anything about Russia.  



I doubt it. But what is very likely to happen is next cold war. I think both US and Russia would love to have a good reason to, yet again, spend ridiculous amounts of money on next big arms race, which in process, would make some elites, absurdly rich. You know, getting the military spendings to good old 10-20% of GDP, like they used to be back in 60s and 70s. Because we can't have good things for too long.



the-pi-guy said:
McDonaldsGuy said:

BS. This is Iraq War 2.0 except 10 times worse.

AIPAC wants it's war with Russia and Syria and they will get it. As I said, Iraq War 2.0.

And the lies are even bigger. "The US is in no danger from Russia" then WHAT THE HELL IS THIS COLLUSION/RUSSIAN HACKING/MEDDLING BS ABOUT?

You know at the end of the Little Boy who cried Wolf, the wolf did come.  

Once again things change.  Just because your wife said she was fine yesterday, doesn't mean she is today.  Just because she said she isn't fine today, doesn't mean she lied yesterday.  Things change.  

 

None of your Obama quotes or Hillary Clinton quotes or anything else from 2012 disprove anything about Russia in 2018.  The only thing it might do is give us reason to question something, but it doesn't disprove anything about Russia.  

Forget it, the guy continues to bring up the same articles from years past as if nothing changed between both governments since that time.  Its a broken record.



LurkerJ said:
Final-Fan said:

Lately it seems like Russia has been embracing its role as villain. 

So farewell hope, and with hope farewell fear,
Farewell remorse; all good to me is lost.
Evil, be thou my good.
 

Some would say, "So is Trump", but he's not President For Life. 

I would say, "So is Trump, so were Obama & Bush". 

Elaborate on how Russia has been embracing its role as villain and how it's been doing it differently than GWB, for example.  

For starters, the mob boss behavior detailed earlier in the thread. 



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