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AlfredoTurkey said:
habam said:

Resident evil 7 has won some goty Awards

 

A VR exclusive can’t win any goty awards currently scince no magazine would give a goty award to a game just accessible to such a small Userbase. That’s why they made a category: „VR game of the year“. Vr Games arnt even considered competition, you can’t even vote for them.

 

that said, games like farpoint or lone echo recieved similar good user reviews as games like zelda botw. Amazon verified user reviews: farpoint with aim Controller 4,8/5; Zelda botw 4,8/5. both with more then 100 votes 

User review scores are about as as reliable as a condom made out of wax paper and a rubber band.

For me it’s more important what real people that own the product actually think. „Professional reviews“ are possible heavil influenced, maybe paid. If many people like a product, it’s good. If many dislike it, its bad. I don’t care what professionals think about it.



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There is nothing super fantastic about clicking from 1080p to 4k. The wow factor comes from the extra textures and attentions to detail companies make use of alongside boost in power and resolution. Without those extras there are just less jaggies and a slightly smoother image.

VR on the other hand has that wow factor from the worst, least graphically impressive experiences up to the very best. We are just at a stage where we need the hardware and support increases, especially with regards to PSVR. In that regard PS5 can't come soon enough, if it also brings a bump in resolution to 2k per eye. Then there will not only be dedicated games for VR, but more mainstream games will be fully VR enabled.

4k is really nice, but VR changes the way I want to do things forever.



A broken Virtual Boy and a half-eaten snickers are better than both. So I choose that. mmmm Snickers.....








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I'm not really getting the comparison, to be honest. It's apples to oranges. One is screen fidelity and the other is a means of experiencing and interacting with a game. VR will get 4K eventually.



habam said: 

For me personally:

I would prefer VR.

Never would have guessed.

 

But seriously, 4K doesn't make me sick, so that's my pick.



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Jaxyfoo said:
There is nothing super fantastic about clicking from 1080p to 4k. The wow factor comes from the extra textures and attentions to detail companies make use of alongside boost in power and resolution. Without those extras there are just less jaggies and a slightly smoother image.

VR on the other hand has that wow factor from the worst, least graphically impressive experiences up to the very best. We are just at a stage where we need the hardware and support increases, especially with regards to PSVR. In that regard PS5 can't come soon enough, if it also brings a bump in resolution to 2k per eye. Then there will not only be dedicated games for VR, but more mainstream games will be fully VR enabled.

4k is really nice, but VR changes the way I want to do things forever.

I disagree. I want PS5 and PSVR2 to be far far away, so that it is a huge jump over current gen vr. I dont want small jumps like with the Vive Pro.

 

4k per eye, wireless, long battery life, perfect inside out tracking in 2022/2023 would be perfect



habam said:
Jaxyfoo said:
There is nothing super fantastic about clicking from 1080p to 4k. The wow factor comes from the extra textures and attentions to detail companies make use of alongside boost in power and resolution. Without those extras there are just less jaggies and a slightly smoother image.

VR on the other hand has that wow factor from the worst, least graphically impressive experiences up to the very best. We are just at a stage where we need the hardware and support increases, especially with regards to PSVR. In that regard PS5 can't come soon enough, if it also brings a bump in resolution to 2k per eye. Then there will not only be dedicated games for VR, but more mainstream games will be fully VR enabled.

4k is really nice, but VR changes the way I want to do things forever.

I disagree. I want PS5 and PSVR2 to be far far away, so that it is a huge jump over current gen vr. I dont want small jumps like with the Vive Pro.

 

4k per eye, wireless, long battery life, perfect inside out tracking in 2022/2023 would be perfect

Wireless + long battery life is not going to happen in 2023. Unless you don't mind it weighing half a pound extra. 4K per eye is already possible, inside out tracking should be good in 2019 as well as pupil tracking for foveated rendering. Fall 2020 with a wire is fine.



Conina said:
habam said:

why not go directly to 8k ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHwovRCBiz0

It's no real 8K! Real 8K is 7680 x 4320 = 33 MPixel

Panel resolution of the Pimax is 2 x 3840 x 2160 = 16 MPixel

And the maximal input it can handle is 2 x 2560 x 1440 = 7.4 MPixel

Would tue human eye notice any difference between 4k and 8k in VR? 



SvennoJ said:
habam said:

I disagree. I want PS5 and PSVR2 to be far far away, so that it is a huge jump over current gen vr. I dont want small jumps like with the Vive Pro.

 

4k per eye, wireless, long battery life, perfect inside out tracking in 2022/2023 would be perfect

Wireless + long battery life is not going to happen in 2023. Unless you don't mind it weighing half a pound extra. 4K per eye is already possible, inside out tracking should be good in 2019 as well as pupil tracking for foveated rendering. Fall 2020 with a wire is fine.

The thing that freaks me out about wireless VR is that fact that you'll have a lithium ion battery strapped to your head. Same reason I won't use Gear vr for any longer than 5 mins, once I start feeling that heat paranoia sets in. We need Musk and co to release these batteries he keeps talking about. No way Am I strapping a potential bomb to my head. I would much rather a power pack that you strap to your trousers or something like the Magic leap AR. That way headsets can be lighter and less apparent also and HMD's will be far cheaper to replace, along with the battery. The vive Pro's battery pack freaks me the fuck out, I can't imagine what would happen to ones skull if that thing overheated and burst right on top of your head. Eeek.

Perfect inside out tracking though, not that is the shit, Apparently Lenovo mirage and The samsung oddessy are pretty on point for the time being though. Perhaps two extra cameras on the back, even if they are lower quality would bring it close enough to the Vives sensors or combining in some sonar tech to compliment the current tracking. 



 

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Kerotan said:
Conina said:

It's no real 8K! Real 8K is 7680 x 4320 = 33 MPixel

Panel resolution of the Pimax is 2 x 3840 x 2160 = 16 MPixel

And the maximal input it can handle is 2 x 2560 x 1440 = 7.4 MPixel

Would tue human eye notice any difference between 4k and 8k in VR? 

Apparently the Pinmax still has screen door effect so i would assume so. 8k should solve the problem, that being 8k per eye that is.



 

Everything in the above reply is my opinion, from my own perspective and not representative of reality outside of my own head!

-Android user, please be gentle with critique on my spelling.