The issue with your logic is your making excuses for one game yet post threads ditching another. You used terms like PD being half the size is excusable yet complain about little things from there direct competition. 

 I also havent seen or cared about advertisments, and ill be dumb to believe Adds in the first place.

I mentioned above that FM5 deserves all its critism. 

At this stage GTS is nothing more than a FM5 a 2013 game. You may hate that however one thing you will love with GTS, is those Pitstop animations.

You are falling in so many fallacies that it's funny.

Nope, not making excuses for the game, I'm fully aware of the differences and what I said is I understand the change of direction and that it needs to be evaluated as GTS and not GT7. The other thread that you seem to be incapable of getting the humour, and go look for most posts there got it.

I said PD being half is excusable? Nope I haven't. What I have said is that they being half the size they having half the output doesn't make less efficient. Can't you even see a difference? If it was for my liking they would be bigger and keep releasing GT every 3 years with 1000 cars.

Have I said you care about ads? What was said in that thread is that Turn 10 advertised the Pit Stop and removed. And you have been attacking at all point that you preffer more cars, tracks than Pit Stop. Funny your prefference in something you don't even play. So should we preffer that Fifa have 15 players per team on field so defense is more tight? Even if we don't even like playing Fifa? You see how ridiculous your exigences seem?

You mentione today that they deserved the criticism, now show me your posts from the time to show that was true and not a revisionism because now you can talk about FM7 and forget about your defense of FM5?

So I understand that GTS is a FM5 because it have the same content? So having same car and track count make both games the same? So should we say FM7 is a GT4 a 2 gen old game? So funny being lectured on logic by you.

Of course GTS should be reviewed as a GT game. It's a GT game. It took four years to make and costs $60. Nothing wrong with expecting fully fledged features and content in that situation.

There is no real IGN review yet. Just the smaller sister sites. You know why?! Because the big sites (IGN US, Gamespot, Verge, Gameinformer) have agreed on holding the reviews back until the game has the chance to work as intended.

GTS is easily worth the price tag for me, as I’m having more fun with it than any other racing game in the last decade...but Im a serious car nerd and racer and I can totally understand if someone who isn’t thinks that way.

GTS only has only one true problem..lack of content. They did a clean cut. I’m still happy they have released it now instead of in 2 years time when they have caught up with modelling. Ok, they really need to get the offline saving and server stability fixed too.

pC2 and F7 have other problems. Be it much worse controller play of PC2, bad AI, bugs and general unpolished state of the game..lacking physics and wheel support of Forza 7 and loot boxes, bad lighting system with exaggerated colours and sound, bad online and A.I.

I don’t have to read the review...they all say the same. The game looks and plays brilliantly, it just doesn’t have enough content yet. And this is only in comparison to the competition as GTS still offers easily hundreds of hours played for its 60 bucks.

Yes GTS have to be reviewed as GTS not GT7, want to repeat it another 5 times?

It have more play time than most 60USD games so is content the problem?

Have you read their conclusion (ign) because yes they said the same, great content on what offered, missing content compared to others.

Funny part is he using it as a comparison to Forza and PC... the comment on the review is that polish and detail on GTS is top class, not equalled by any, just that FM7 and PC2 aren't draw with crayon... so he was very clear in putting there really is a big difference.

But PD said it was GT7 just under a different name.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/ps4/news/a794751/gran-turismo-sport-is-gran-turismo-7-after-all

Not that your excuse works, anyway. You're still left with a full priced but content-lite simulation racer. Also, the amount of play you get out of it depends entirely on how much you enjoy online racing with strangers :) That used to not matter in Gran Turismo.

Feel free to repeat how GTS is a special sequel that should never be judged against its predecessors, it won't make what you're saying logical.

You mean Kaz said you could understand it as GT7 or GT7S? Still it is a complete different approach.

100h of SP content on what is available at launch, doesn't seem meager.

Not special sequel, a spin-off game.

Should we evaluate Fifa Street the same we do Fifa and take out score because there isn't 22 simultaneous players on the field?

I actually like this game, the driving feels so right even with the standard controller, graphics is good enough that it feels real, and then you have the most important tracks like Nurnburgring well modelled. Then is just to drive as much you like. And we do.

It is restart, a reset for the series. You can compare it with Gran Turismo 1 if you want, or Forza 5 for that matter...or project CARS 1, which had what, 60 cars?!

There is a reason they did this btw. Everybody kept complaining about the bad quality tracks and recycled cars. Every 7 is justified if those people value quantity over quality. I respect the effort and dedication that is needed to deliver such a game and I totally understand why it took them so long for what they have now and therefore I’m not complaining, I’d give it an 8 atm, since server problems and always online are kind of a pain atm...a 9 if those are ironed out, which they will for sure, and I’m sure it’ll even be worth a 10 once they add weather, more cars and tracks.

Dissapointing to say the least. Took 4 good years to develop a half-baked game.......Kaz is out of touch, he needs to fired and replaced by someone who doesn't travel the globe every 2 days and someone who would cut out the GT academy crap to focus on the actual game. Looking at this, it looks like the series will never get up to GT4 standards anymore.....what a shame.

And yes, points should be cut out even if they achieved their vision, because the vision was crap in the first place. I mean, just ONE car that older than 2009, and only 6 real world tracks, being online only......I mean, what were they thinking?

Between GT sport and it's online-only thing and Forza 7's lootboxes, I feel like both series will never be able to reach their pinnacle again (GT4 and Forza 3-4)