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Oddworld Creator, Lorne Lanning Exposes Nintendo! & Says Tasteless Stuff About Iwata!

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Ljink96 said:
JRPGfan said:
some of that seems like legit issues though.

I agree but getting angry at Nintendo for not promoting your game or marketing your game is kinda shitty. And he didn't lose money on his venture on Wii U...

Please explain why.

Also, not losing money is not great. The point is to make money. As much as possible. So breaking even or making a tiny profit is probably a bad bussiness move.



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According to vgchartz 68 out of the Wii's top 100 best selling games were third party titles. So...

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=&platform=Wii&genre=&minSales=0&results=200



sc94597 said:
According to vgchartz 67 out of the Wii's top 100 best selling games were third party titles. So...

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=&platform=Wii&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

To be fair, using VGchartz data doesnt exactly help your contrasting point.



Jpcc86 said:
I think he is just pissed that Nintendo doesnt give us what we really want: Golden Sun for the Switch.

Where's Advance Wars 



naruball said:
Ljink96 said:

I agree but getting angry at Nintendo for not promoting your game or marketing your game is kinda shitty. And he didn't lose money on his venture on Wii U...

Please explain why.

Also, not losing money is not great. The point is to make money. As much as possible. So breaking even or making a tiny profit is probably a bad bussiness move.

Bringing a game a year and half after initial release to the WiiU when it was widely available on all other platforms for long is also a bad buisness move. No reason to complain here for him. Was to be expected.



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You can feel the hate flowing from this guy.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Ganoncrotch said:

You are including that the Wii wasn't successful in this and that the WiiU didn't have 3rd party support you know? Lines that on reading I think less of what the person knows about gaming outside of his own little projects in all honesty.

Read the OP, he said wii was not successfull to third parties he is probably right, wiiU had very poor 3rd party support too so he is right again.

Ubisoft alone sold 33.4 million copies of Just Dance on the Wii, that makes the statement incorrect. Tons of other companies struck gold on the system too, EA, Lucas,Sega, Warner, fuck it read for yourself the companies who have million sellers on the platform, million selling titles @ 480p in 2012, that is just printing money right there.

Like I said, what he said is only correct, if you don't actually know the facts or truth, sure if you read the OP as true then what he said is perfectly true, but this is the same man that thinks the Switch has 2GB of RAM in it and thinks that Ubisoft didn't make money from 33million sales of SD games on the Wii.

http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/2/wii/

As for Wii-U third party support? you would have to have your eyes bolted closed to not have seen Arkam, Tekken, mass effect, skylanders, Just dance, assassins Creed, Sonic and others pouring onto the system during its first years, the console was basically a tech demo for what the Switch would be in 2017, people didn't buy it, third party dried up and rightly so, but that does not mean it was not there from the get go. It is like trying to say that you don't see a lot of people taking part in a marathon after the race is over and everyone has gone home.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Ganoncrotch said:

You are including that the Wii wasn't successful in this and that the WiiU didn't have 3rd party support you know? Lines that on reading I think less of what the person knows about gaming outside of his own little projects in all honesty.

Read the OP, he said wii was not successfull to third parties he is probably right, wiiU had very poor 3rd party support too so he is right again.

Ubisoft basically funded the development of their HD games by exploiting the casual audience on the Wii; same with the other western 3rd party publishers to a lesser extent.  At the very least, they didn't lose money because development costs for Wii games were still low due to the fact that it wasn't an HD console and was basically a souped up Gamecube so it wasn't unfamiliar territory to program for.



twintail said:
sc94597 said:
According to vgchartz 67 out of the Wii's top 100 best selling games were third party titles. So...

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=&platform=Wii&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

To be fair, using VGchartz data doesnt exactly help your contrasting point.

I think the rankings are fairly close, even if the exact sales numbers have a level of uncertainty. 



spemanig said:
JRPGfan said:

some of that seems like legit issues though.

"He claimed that unless you release "day and date" with other versions of a multiformat game, Nintendo refuses to promote your title in any way."

^ like thats not a good stance to take if you want 3rd party support, or them to succede on your console.

Does Sony or microsoft do this though? Not unless it's a big indie title like Shovel Knight. New'n'Tastey is a late indie remake of a nearly 2 decades old game. I don't know what kind of promotion he was expecting. Like Rocket League is releasing late on the Switch, but Nintendo sure is promoting that.

They do. I regurarly check their fb page, their youtube channel and even their blog; indies, even small ones, get a ton of promotion.Even games that shouldn't be on psn in the first place.