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Soundwave said:
Lawlight said:

There you go again without reading what he said going on a tangent about skin colour.. *sigh*

And so what if it's a different culture? In many cities in the US, Canada, etc. there are like 5-6 different cultures. They are still people, they're not Martians. 

Integrate them better, build bridges, involve them more in society. It's not rocket science. For those who are criminals give the police the neccessary leeway to crack down on that element. 

The fact of the matter is those people are there and they're likely going to be there in 20, 30 years from now. They're not going anywhere. So you can sit there and huff and puff and be resentful to them and see how well that goes or you can look at involving them more into society and you might find in a generation that their kids are very well integrated. Which is generally the case in countries like Canada and the US, 2nd generation kids tend to be quite well integrated. 

Not all cultures arw equal. Brazilian culture, for example, is not the same as Islamic culture. The former will integrate better than the latter.



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Lawlight said:
Soundwave said:

And so what if it's a different culture? In many cities in the US, Canada, etc. there are like 5-6 different cultures. They are still people, they're not Martians. 

Integrate them better, build bridges, involve them more in society. It's not rocket science. For those who are criminals give the police the neccessary leeway to crack down on that element. 

The fact of the matter is those people are there and they're likely going to be there in 20, 30 years from now. They're not going anywhere. So you can sit there and huff and puff and be resentful to them and see how well that goes or you can look at involving them more into society and you might find in a generation that their kids are very well integrated. Which is generally the case in countries like Canada and the US, 2nd generation kids tend to be quite well integrated. 

Not all cultures arw equal. Brazilian culture, for example, is not the same as Islamic culture. The former will integrate better than the latter.

Or Indian, or Chinese, or whatever. I mean there's sizable Muslim population in Canada, they seem to integrate there fine. 

Integration does require some planning and common sense though. 



Lawlight said:
Soundwave said:

And so what if it's a different culture? In many cities in the US, Canada, etc. there are like 5-6 different cultures. They are still people, they're not Martians. 

Integrate them better, build bridges, involve them more in society. It's not rocket science. For those who are criminals give the police the neccessary leeway to crack down on that element. 

The fact of the matter is those people are there and they're likely going to be there in 20, 30 years from now. They're not going anywhere. So you can sit there and huff and puff and be resentful to them and see how well that goes or you can look at involving them more into society and you might find in a generation that their kids are very well integrated. Which is generally the case in countries like Canada and the US, 2nd generation kids tend to be quite well integrated. 

Not all cultures arw equal. Brazilian culture, for example, is not the same as Islamic culture. The former will integrate better than the latter.

proper management is all that's needed. Many European countries did not handle the refugees or immigrants well. That is why we have seen this balloon into a big issue.

 

Minnesota features the second largest population of Somalians, and we're doing quite fine. Why? It's because we don't just let anyone enter and prevent abuse of our system. 



I don't agree with every video this guy does but I think this is a relatively good interview with someone who knows 100x more about this issue, it's a Swedish cop who is Afghan himself and he interfaces with a lot of these kids and he breaks down some of the realities from both ends, there are problems, but the problems are largely from a small group of people and poor planning/integration by the government in general. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82eGHYsP0FE




Lawlight said:

This is why you can't have a conversation with the regressive left... I made my point several times and yet nothing is registering. Here's an article with the link to the actual post:

https://www.thelocal.se/20170208/swedish-police-officer-causes-controversy-with-facebook-post

Read the facebook post and then come back. Your 2 points are wrong in any case (that he named actual people and that he breached any code of conduct - he's not being investigated for that as we all know).

It is amusing and frustrating at the same time. I remember as a kid being like that, for example once I was arguing with my friend about stars - he was saying that they consist of gas and therefore are not planets but I insisted they are planets. Hello leftists.



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Zkuq said:
Ka-pi96 said:

How are they outside nations? They're both European nations...

What I said was mostly true. I suppose I could have chosen my words more carefully, but I thought my point should still be pretty clear.

barneystinson69 said:

It's projected towards 25% by 2100. More than enough to break apart Europe...

By 2100, most of them will have properly integrated to European societies if integration is done properly. If not, 25% might be enough to start a war but not enough to pose too much of a threat (to a nation of course; to its people it will definitely be dangerous). But like I said, I'm expecting proper integration to solve most of the problems considering how much time there is until 2100.

 

 

You're ignoring the likelihood and probability that many of these immegrants, if given the choice/chance, would absolutely rather go home, to the nations they originally came from, if conditions ever finally get better. I know Iraqi immigrants that would likely go back to Iraq if they thought it was finally safe.



Scisca said:
Soundwave said:

Yeah hundreds of years ago. Pretty sure iPhones and prostitutes in neon window cases weren't a thing 200 years ago either. Things change there is no going back to 1812. 

If you can't even handle like 10% of your population being a different hue ... jeeeeeeeezus. You might actually need to learn a thing or two from Americans and Canadians. 

Integrate people better. Stop whining so much and running around like a chicken with its head cut off. 10% of your population being of a different ethnicity is nothing. 

Hundreds of years ago? I could swear than even last year there was a court case in Germany against some Auschwitz guards. Swedes were into the "perfect white-skinned, blue-eyed blonde" program till the 70s with their eugenics and mandatory abortions and sterilizations of people deemed not worthy to procreate. The Year of Africa is 1960 I believe. All this is not really that far back.

And don't say that to me. Over here, we have no problems and never have had any such problems. It's the Wester Europe that we should worry about, since they are going downhill with each passing year. The soil is there for extremist movements to blossom again.

Wait wait wait, you're watching a trend that can potentially destabilize and destroy the European Union (which Poland happens to be a part of and tends to benefit from), and you're worried about reactions to that trend?

Don't worry, Germany belongs to the Arabs, France belongs to the Arabs, and so too does Poland to the Arabs! If you say they aren't, you're just a racist and a nazi, we all know otherwise!



 
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DevilRising said:

You're ignoring the likelihood and probability that many of these immegrants, if given the choice/chance, would absolutely rather go home, to the nations they originally came from, if conditions ever finally get better. I know Iraqi immigrants that would likely go back to Iraq if they thought it was finally safe.

True, but it should to be taken into account in the projections anyway. I don't know if it is but it should be. Anyway, it might take a really long time for the region to really become safe. I'm under the impression that Iraq hasn't been really safe at any point since the invasion in 2003. It could take even longer in Syria, considering its current chaotic state.



Lawlight said:

This is why you can't have a conversation with the regressive left... I made my point several times and yet nothing is registering. Here's an article with the link to the actual post:

https://www.thelocal.se/20170208/swedish-police-officer-causes-controversy-with-facebook-post

Read the facebook post and then come back. Your 2 points are wrong in any case (that he named actual people and that he breached any code of conduct - he's not being investigated for that as we all know).

Fantastic. You have rectified the original link that you provided. So you can stop arguing with your own evidence that you provided.

My point still stands however that it is unacceptable for any professional to share such information on facebook. Confidentiality and all that.



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Pemalite said:
Lawlight said:

This is why you can't have a conversation with the regressive left... I made my point several times and yet nothing is registering. Here's an article with the link to the actual post:

https://www.thelocal.se/20170208/swedish-police-officer-causes-controversy-with-facebook-post

Read the facebook post and then come back. Your 2 points are wrong in any case (that he named actual people and that he breached any code of conduct - he's not being investigated for that as we all know).

Fantastic. You have rectified the original link that you provided. So you can stop arguing with your own evidence that you provided.

My point still stands however that it is unacceptable for any professional to share such information on facebook. Confidentiality and all that.

I'm sorry but confidentiality only applies if he's given information that allows people to be identified. If I say a person named David committed a crime - whose information am I sharing here? And we already what exactly he's being investigated for so you can drop the leak/sharing of information point. All he did was relate his experience and the government is bullying for that and want to censor what he has to say.