so hes just goning to flop on already singed contracts, brilliant strategy.    Pick a rival for what ? wtf are you talking about.  

Good lord, the childishness in this thread.  You people are going to get this thread closed with your petty, zealot-like behavior.

Anyway, looking at this objectively, the situation is kind of interesting in that it's not really all that interesting.  What Carrier got from Indiana is pretty standard.  All States were doing that kind of thing now and it would have been handled by the State and not Trump.  Smart move to give all the credit to Trump, though, as it gifts him with a lot of good-will.

What we know about Trump's influence seems to be mostly speculation, at this point.  A lot of people are guessing that his role was mostly some "arm-twisting".  That seems to be the reason many economic conservatives are upset with Trump.  

Seriously, this is going to be a very interesting period.  Are the Republicans in Congress going to go along with Trump adding more regulation to trade?  Are they going to be supportive of his more old-school Democrat approach to restricting the economy?  I'm guessing they will, because they'll be afraid to go against popular opinion, even though Wall Street and many lobbyists will pitch an absolute fit.

He doesn't have to flip on anything, he could simply say you have 5 billion in tax-payer contracts here, sure would be a shame if we chose to go with a different company for the next round of billion-dollar deals. 

It's not even like this was a large number of jobs, lol. 2000 jobs is fucking nothing, they couldn't even save that many? Not even with that much leverage. Not even with this being a news story on every news network, with the "master negotiator" president elect personally getting involved. 

This is the best deal? lol, gaurunteed other companies are smiling/laughing at this because it shows Trump is not nearly as tough as he played up in his campaign trail. There's going to be no 35% tarrifs. 

He's already flopped on the wall, the deportation force, prosecuting Clinton, the tariffs, and draining the swamp. What is to stop him from flopping on contracts. He has stiffed workers, other businesses many times. You really expect him to be a straight shooter now? I thought people voted for him because he is a ruthless businessman who will make their dreams come true.

You're obviously not one of the 1000 people who just had their job saved. 

I'd sooner set a bad prescendent in saving jobs then pay Iran for a peace deal. That shows any crazy country how to beat the United States. Start building nukes then cash in.

I think basically this will be the Trump doctrine ... the "reality TV president style" which is he'll mostly bend over to corporate interests, but every once in a while he'll cherry pick a PR photo-op, like this Carrier situation and make a big fuss about it, have a press conference, to show the masses he's "getting things done".

He saved about 900 jobs while losing 1100 in the process with all the leverage in the world (or country) behind him. To me that's not great negotiation. This wasn't even a big number, lol 2000 jobs is nothing. If this is the best he can do in this situation, what's he's going to accomplish with little/no leverage? 10% of jobs saved instead of 45%? 

Carrier was a very easy case, they are deeply tied to the US gov't. This is like picking a fight with the skinniest/weakest looking kid and still getting a bloody nose out of it. What are you going to do when you have to actually someone bigger? 

Actually a "pay for peace" deal with Iran is much more preferable than the alternative. You want to go fight on the front lines in a war in Iran? Or send your son/daughter to do so? Didn't think so. Easy to war hawk when someone else is the one who's going to have to potentially actually fight. 

pretty much. Present an image of being the guy who is saving jobs while corporations count the cash and ship the jobs elsewhere. And it will be eaten up and he will be treated like the second coming.

The deindustrialization of the US accelerated with Clinton's NAFTA and Obama has no magic wand against it.

Deindustrialization was going to happen no matter what. 

The only way to stop it from happening would be if China, Japan, Europe, Russia were all communist and the US didn't have to compete against any country and products could only be made in the USA. 

And even then, eventually automation would become a problem, which it is. Like I said there are more factories in the US today than 30 years ago. They only employ 1/3 the work force though because technology has improved so much and that number is only going to become more lop sided. 

Manufacturing is never coming back. No politican has the balls to publicly say this though. People who think they have a steady manufacturing job waiting for them for the next 10-20+ years need to wake up, it's the 21st century now and shit has changed. 

They're already prepping for self driving trucks in the US for example ... if trucks become automated, trucking is one of the last "big" blue collar jobs left. You walk into a McDonalds today and they employ maybe 1/2 the amount of workers as they did a decade ago because you can order on touchscreen kiosks now. Everything is changing.