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deskpro2k3 said:
Since Satya Nadella became CEO, I believe he wanted to drop the Xbox brand, looks like it is happening.

Making the X1S and Scorpio isnt giving signs that they want to drop the Xbox brand, that will only happen in fantasies.



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mountaindewslave said:

Microsoft has basically never made money from their video game division, I'm not surprised they're hoping that the video game market finally truly merges with PC's, it would make things so much easier and more profitable for them (i.e. look at how much they make in sales for Windows and the Office programs, they want something similarly easy to make huge margins on with video games but the process of creating the hardware and marketing to keep up with competition has made their numbers ehhh at times)

According to what I read, MS only got into the industry to prevent Sony from taking over. 



pleaserecycle said:
Consoles will exist until they stop making money.

And nobody says otherwise.



darkenergy said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Since Satya Nadella became CEO, I believe he wanted to drop the Xbox brand, looks like it is happening.

Making the X1S and Scorpio isnt giving signs that they want to drop the Xbox brand, that will only happen in fantasies.

what he said about dropping deadweight, and streamlining the gaming division, "Everything will be unified at some point" to me says they're slowly phasing out the xbox.

Greenberg: I think it is. ... For us, we think the future is without console generations.

I don't think The MS big cheese, and head honchos are living a fantasy. It's happening.



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deskpro2k3 said:
darkenergy said:

Making the X1S and Scorpio isnt giving signs that they want to drop the Xbox brand, that will only happen in fantasies.

what he said about dropping deadweight, and streamlining the gaming division, "Everything will be unified at some point" to me says they're slowly phasing out the xbox.

Greenberg: I think it is. ... For us, we think the future is without console generations.

I don't think The MS big cheese, and head honchos are living a fantasy. It's happening.

It's pretty evident in the way they are spending a lot less on the Xbox division. The Slim is not a sign they are sticking around, but more a way to cut costs dramatically while they are still around.

And I said months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if the Scorpio is going to be advertised just as much, if not more, as a Windows Store VR Machine than it is a new Xbox. I mean this past E3 proves how much they are shifting the focus to Windows.



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there will still be a PS5 tough



Him saying things like that doesn't make me want to buy an Xbox



globalisateur said:
So now suddenly there will be exclusives Scorpio titles if they are VR compatible ?

The backpedaling has begun. It won't stop there. Slowly but surely the message will shift. But one day, suddenly, Scorpio will be the Microsoft next gen 4 years after the release of XB1, like X360 was next gen 4 years after the original Xbox.

People have to understand that they already had a generation that lasted only 4 years with the OG Xbox. Scorpio will also be released 4 years after XB1.

Well lets think about this for a second before we throw out the backpedaling part.  First, MS from the moment they revealed the Scorpio has stated its for VR, 4K HD gaming.  MS has never made any statements that the X1/X1S will have any VR games.  So by definition and just plain common sense, of course Scorpio will have exclusive VR games since its designed to play those games and marketed.  Now if you can find any data that shows that MS has marketed the X1/S as playing VR games then you probably would have a point.



walsufnir said:
Holy moly, a lot only read the title and post accordingly.
Yes, there will be no generations anymore, in my opinion. You buy a hardware iteration of an existing ecosystem which is backwards compatible with all its predecessors, meaning you can play games that were released on earlier console iterations. Consoles are more or less PCs now and I think nobody argues that you have "generations" on PC.

I was about to say the exact same thing.  How many people in this thread only read the title an actually never read the article is very interesting.



RolStoppable said:
globalisateur said:
So now suddenly there will be exclusives Scorpio titles if they are VR compatible ?

The backpedaling has begun. It won't stop there. Slowly but surely the message will shift. But one day, suddenly, Scorpio will be the Microsoft next gen 4 years after the release of XB1, like X360 was next gen 4 years after the original Xbox.

People have to understand that they already had a generation that lasted only 4 years with the OG Xbox. Scorpio will also be released 4 years after XB1.

I don't expect it to be much different for Sony either. The initial message is that all Scorpio/Neo games will work on the original models of the XB1/PS4 as well, but since both Microsoft and Sony are actively encouraging third parties to use the additional processing power, it shouldn't take long until the versions for the old models begin to suffer in the development process. There might be the argument of userbase, but shiny graphics sell games, so the prettier versions will be prioritized within a year or two.

Yes, exactly this will happen with both consoles, the Scorpion and Neo. A slow gradual shift, so by the time they're announcing Playstation 5 and the Xbox equivalent, most people with original Xbox Ones and PS4s have been prepared to move on.

The new strategy is about gradual shift.

Sony obviously has no interest in saying anything that would harm PS4 sales right now, but they will be forced to accept this same strategy (although forced perhaps is wrong since it's a good strategy for the industry) when it has become clear that the millions of people with a Neo in the future would become very upset if they can't play the games of the next iteration (PS5). And the difference in hardware power between a Neo and PS5 wouldn't be very big anyway.