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Runa216 said:
Lawlight said:

Disney bought their good graces, yes. You know something is wrong when movies from a studio is consistently liked more by critics than the general audience. The latter is supposed to be more forgiving and critics more critical.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=avengers.htm

Yup, TOTAL disconnect between the great critic reviews and massive box office.  Clearly the people didn't like these movies. 

Bad or average movies making big money at the boxoffice is nothing new.



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Runa216 said:
Volterra_90 said:

Basically. I think the movies had a generally well reception with critics and general audience alike.

That is exactly correct.  Critics like the Marvel movies, as to audiences.  Lawlight was saying that the press was paid off because there's a 'huge disconnect' between the reviews and the audience reception. 

He's wrong.  

The fact that these movies make a tonne of money AND get great reviews shows that they are loved by critics and audiences alike! 

Just posted proof of what I was saying.



Lawlight said:
pic.twitter.com/qsaIOOwH5i

And Collider loved the movie, right? Makes you wonder...

I don't get it. He's in a red carpet, so what? 

Also, I think that guy gave BvS a 7.5/10, so... 



Volterra_90 said:
Lawlight said:
pic.twitter.com/qsaIOOwH5i

And Collider loved the movie, right? Makes you wonder...

I don't get it. He's in a red carpet, so what? 

Really? You see nothing wrong with a critic being invited to the red carpet, being wined, dined and entertained by a company for a product that the critic is supposed to be unbiased towards? If this was a government sector, this would be a clear case of bribery.



Lawlight said:

Really? You see nothing wrong with a critic being invited to the red carpet, being wined, dined and entertained by a company for a product that the critic is supposed to be unbiased towards? If this was a government sector, this would be a clear case of bribery.

This happens with a lot of movies, which are bashed afterwards by critics. One thing is to invite reviewers to the pre-screening of your movie, and treat them well, an another very different is bribe those people. I mean, do you think that critics are so unprofessional that they give the movie a great score just because they invited them to the pre-screening and some drinks? OK, maybe this works for a couple of them, but we're talking about hundreds of reviewers which gave a high score to Winter Soldier, the vast majority surely haven't even gone to the movie pre-screening and red carpet. 

Also, I think it's generally accepted that audiences react better to critics to these super-hero movies. Including MCU movies. Including BvS. It's always like that with super-hero comics, I definitely see not bias here. 



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Where exactly do critics like Marvel movies under Disney better as the general audience does? All I can find is better IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes audience scores as the critics scores for these movies are (I believe for all of them). Not to forget about the box office success of these movies.

I mean, that the audience is giving better scores for a movie as critics do isn't something new and almost always happens but yeah, where can I find that the audience didn't like the movies as much as the critics or even that "there is a total disconnect" between the audience and critics perception of these movies?

I mean, it's pretty clear from the BvsS and this  thread that you like DC more and don't really like the Marvel movies that much but common, just accept that many many people love the Marvel movies under Disney. Critics and audience alike (well, some movies did also get not that great scores by critics). 

This is getting ridiciulous. 



Lawlight said:
Runa216 said:

That is exactly correct.  Critics like the Marvel movies, as to audiences.  Lawlight was saying that the press was paid off because there's a 'huge disconnect' between the reviews and the audience reception. 

He's wrong.  

The fact that these movies make a tonne of money AND get great reviews shows that they are loved by critics and audiences alike! 

Just posted proof of what I was saying.

No, you didn't.  I think you misunderstand the word 'proof'.  



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Lawlight said:
Darc Requiem said:

WB had press screenings for BvS as well. Many of the same critics that saw BvS early saw Civil War early. Collider is an example of one of them. 

It wasn't as early and we don't know what the conditions were for each screenings. A critic having one bad experience with a studio is enough to make him/her bias. Personally, the only way I can see critics recommending some of those Disney movies is the later treating them very well somehow.

Lawlight, you don't seem to know how things work. The earlier a product is shown off prior to release the better. This is usually a sign of a well made product. When a studio is not confident in a film they typically don't do pre-screenings or they do them shortly before the film releases and embargo the reviews to keep word from getting out as long as possible.



Lawlight said:
Runa216 said:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=avengers.htm

Yup, TOTAL disconnect between the great critic reviews and massive box office.  Clearly the people didn't like these movies. 

Bad or average movies making big money at the boxoffice is nothing new.

Batman vs. Superman proved this to be true.



Chromeo said:
Lawlight said:

Bad or average movies making big money at the boxoffice is nothing new.

Batman vs. Superman proved this to be true.

I personally want to see this disconnect between Marvel movies critically and movie goers, that lawlight keeps going on about.