Yeah, I believe game sales would be higher too

Good. Would like to see pirates publicly beaten so they stop hiding like most keyboard warriors. I support hacktivists but never pirates.

I just defended piracy by saying it's harm is overstated and you say "anyone that Is pro piracy in anyway is probably a pirate and is just selfishly defending their vile habit." But then say you're not naming names. Lame. Just say that you mean the people in this thread and how there is no possibility they could have this different opinion unless they are selfish jerks.

Plus, it's pretty easy to defend it. I was a super poor kid. If I didnt download Pokemon Emerald as a kid I might not have become a big enough pokemon fan and eventually buy every game in Gens 5 and 6. If I couldnt have downloaded it, I would have had absolutely no other way to get it at all. A friend gave me a physical copy years later but used games are in the same boat as piracy anyways. And he only gave me because I was interested in it, and only became interested because I played it as a kid. Plus, besides this paragraph I never defended piracy, I just said it's not ruining games as much as a lot of other things are right now.

Anyways, the TV show statement was a more general statement based on piracy on a whole.  Saying a sale lost to piracy is a sale lost period is simply wrong, as there are numerous people who would never buy the game, due to it being unavailable in thier country, them not being able to ever afford it or simply just being tightwads who dont want to pay.

Sales arent a game's only source of income. There's tie in deals, and in some cases, physical media and merchendice for larger games.

It would stink if people took my stuff for free. That's not the argument though. The argument is that there are numerous games where the effect is much less than people think. And it the impack definitely changes the bigger the franchise. An indie game will take a major hit from piracy but a company selling 8 million of a game will take a much tinier hit.

Dont forget, Denuvo is apparently super expensive. Not every company can afford it. Some might find the sales lost from piracy to be less expensive than getting it in the long run.

A valid point

Well that's frustrating because Spotify premium made any kind of pirating for me obsolete a long time ago. With how corrupt the entertainment industry is as a whole, I believe they deserve piracy.  At the end of the day there is no tangible impact on you or I.

Very interesting videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD-9aygUOSg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI7O4hBFBoo

Those that think Denuvo will be around forever or won't be cracked should more or less take a look back on the history of piracy, you cannot create something that is supposedly "uncrackable", there are 7 billion and more on this planet and the bigger the number, the more chances your anti piracy idea has at being tweaked or bypassed. The only way you could ever hope to truly defeat piracy is if you directly controlled everyone's thoughts and let's be honest that's an asinine idea at best. I don't condone piracy but I do know why it exists and what it does, it, it also helps keep companies in check because without piracy they would rule with an iron fist regardless of what you say or do. The best you can do is to just live and accept that piracy is always going to be a thing and just co-exist with it rather than trying to defeat a foe that you cannot see or cannot tackle.

Piracy won't stop, though people should support games and bands they love, by buying their products.

HOPE NOT Will piracy be largley eradicated in the next 5 years

Pretty dumb methodology for getting any useful information about the effect of piracy on game sales. Firstly, how are they going to gather accurate and meaningful game sales data. It's not like publishers are going to hand over their game sales information to a criminal organisation. Secondly, if trhey wanted to measure the imact they would need to get essentially all current pirates to agree to stop what they're doing for probably at least 2 years to see what happens. Even as the biggest pirate out there, people who want pirated games will get them from someone else.

So total BS with a pre-determined outcome of "no positive effect on game sales, therefore what we do is perfectly OK." when the claim would not stack up to any proper methodological or statistical analysis.