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Eddie_Raja on 29 July 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Eddie_Raja said:

Congress flat out said they wouldn't work with him ever on anything (Because they were butthurt).  I mean then what would you do?  

If he broke laws, they should arrest/impeach.  Exept they can't, because he didn't technically, and they would never work together to get that done.

He did break laws but there's no punishment for any of it. His immigration order will probably get overturned because it's illegal but he'll probably just issue a new one. Congress won't work with him after he started to wrongly use executive orders.

That makes no sense as a reason to not work with him lol.  I don't agree with most of his policies or political views - but he is a strong leader, and congress is currently led by a munch of followers.



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Signalstar on 29 July 2015

The only thing that could hurt him is if the economy tanks like it did at the end of W's presidency. If not he will have a respectable legacy.



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binary solo on 29 July 2015

I bet he'd win if he ran for President of Kenya. And I bet the eligibility criteria would allow him to as well. Now that Obama's political time has almost run its course in the USA why not become president of your ancestral homeland on your father's side now that your done serving the homeland of your mother? If you genuinely care about development in Kenya, and in Africa more broadly, why not do something directly and personally about it?



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

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binary solo on 29 July 2015
kitler53 said:
*looks at republican candidates*

obama would crush them. i've been very happy with obama but still,.. i'm very much in favor of term limits so it is for the best he is leaving. hilary will make a good president so it's all good.

Honestly, I don't think you'll ever get the chance to be proved right or wrong on this. I don't think Hilary will win the democratic nomination. Her best chance was in 2008, but she got undone by hope and change.

Does anyone know if there was ever a 3rd term presidency for the same party where the person elected was not vice-president to the outgoing president?

Term limits are an admission of the inherent corruption of the democratic process as it operates in the country/state/city, and it is an expression of fear and a fundamental lack of trust of the democratic process. If you really trusted the democratic process and knew the system was effectively incorruptable term limits would not even be considered. So I disagree with the concept of term limits, because they are a useless band aid for a system that is horribly flawed and needs fundamental change. Is there any evidence of a robust democracy suffering badly because it lacked term limits? It's only corrupt democracies that end up with presidents for life achieved through rigged elections or voter intimidation or both.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

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StarOcean on 29 July 2015

Random question for my politically minded friends here: I remember my dad telling me once that a president COULD be re-elected 3 times as long as it isn't in a row. (like 2 terms and then absent the next and then 4-8yrs later run again) is he right? My dad is Canadian so he may be wrong with his politcal systems or whatever, but I've never gotten that clarified XD



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sundin13 on 29 July 2015
StarOcean said:
Random question for my politically minded friends here: I remember my dad telling me once that a president COULD be re-elected 3 times as long as it isn't in a row. (like 2 terms and then absent the next and then 4-8yrs later run again) is he right? My dad is Canadian so he may be wrong with his politcal systems or whatever, but I've never gotten that clarified XD


You cannot be elected as president for more than two terms, regardless of whether they are consecutive or not, however, you can be president for about 10 years, if you became president after the previous president died and held office for two years or less...



Snoopy on 29 July 2015

Trump or Jeb is going to win.



Aeolus451 on 30 July 2015
Eddie_Raja said:
Aeolus451 said:

He did break laws but there's no punishment for any of it. His immigration order will probably get overturned because it's illegal but he'll probably just issue a new one. Congress won't work with him after he started to wrongly use executive orders.

That makes no sense as a reason to not work with him lol.  I don't agree with most of his policies or political views - but he is a strong leader, and congress is currently led by a munch of followers.

How so? He's went around congress on things he shouldn't have and republicans are mad over it. Relublicans not working with him for the most part after that to spite him makes perfect sense. 

I have to disagree on the strong leader part. Russia, China and North Korea think he's a joke. He's pissing off some of our allies and downsizing the military to dangerous levels. He's a weak leader but he has a strong following. 



RadiantDanceMachine on 30 July 2015

It's easy to make unfalsifiable predictions isn't it, Barry?



Danuch on 30 July 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Eddie_Raja said:


Without a doubt he has set a new president that if you are POTUS, you can just decree things you want as long as you have the support.  The thing is he is only doing this because he knows congress will never get anything done themselves.

 

If we fix our congressional system then presidents will be less likely to go this route.

Any change done through executive orders like he's done will not result in meaningful and long lasting change since it can all just as easily be reversed by the next president. The reason why he didn't work with congress on things like immigration is because he would of had to comprimise on certain things in order to get it passed. That's the way it's supposed to work. Of course, extremely left-leaning bills won't go through congress when it's controlled by republicans but that's the party people wanted in control of congress. 

Obama wanted to push his party's agenda regardless of what anyone else thinks. He's a horrible president because he doesn't even follow the law or have any foresight.

The nuclear deal with iran will probably end with us going to war over there once Iran starts to do what it wants. Using planes only against ISIS is not a viable strategy to stop them. He adds fuel onto race issues. Al Sharpton is a advisor/friend of his that's an openly racist bigot that uses race issues to profit from.  His executive order on immigration is illegal and will probably cost millions to fix.  He broke the law trading 5 high ranking taliban for that traitor bergdahl.

 

I understand you bro.

But would you rather have a president like Geroge Bush how acctually was more of a puppet then a man with a clear conscious and critical thinking? I rather see a USA president that can see threw the lines and not one like Geroge Bush how just did what he was told. And we have seen what happens when the congress get what they want., a la Geroge Bush invading Iraq and Afganhistan, cost the USA citizens 1,1 trillon dollars at the end 2010 and 2,47 trillon dollar by 2017. Now iam not a American and i dont need to understand politics and such but thats a waste of money. And above that anti-americansism is growing more and more over the world. European countries are battling with refugess from the middle east. I dont see the US helping these refugess in anyway.

The reason for ISIS being so strong today is actually all the Americans fault, if Saddam would have stayed in power he would have slaughtered every terorist. But instead the American goverment choose to attack and kill him. Which is ironic because the US goverment put Saddam in power in Iraq to fight the Iranian goverment (Khomeini) which the US goverment help get to power. Funny isnt it? I bet Geroge Bush didnt know this and so does none of the Republican candidates there just money and power hungry idiots.

Like Jimi Hendrix said: When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the the world will know peace.