you heard me. The three websites I just listed are absolutely fantastic.The first two are the primary reasons that Pokémon is my number one favorite game franchise.  But that comes at a cost. The whole reason I would go to websites like Serebii and Bulbapedia was because the resources are given to you by the games were not sufficient. Pokedex's, from the functionality point of view, are all terrible in every game.  Even the official pokedex app fail by comparison.

 In a perfect world, the entire Pokedex would be unlocked the moment you get it. So much of the fun in Pokémon comes from looking  up and learning about all of the different species. That just can't happen  if you don't even know what it is until after you capture it. The other thing is that the entries in the games  aren't even remotely in depth enough. Some of these Pokémon have such interesting backgrounds to them that have been flushed out extensively over the years through the context of the games, but none of that is reflected in a 2 to 3 sentence blurb. But it is reflected in the entries of Bulbapedia.

Another thing these websites do better than the Pokémon games are be displaying of Pokémon competitive bad link information. Stats.it's sort of ridiculous how, even after seven generations, there is still no definitive numerical way to you IVs in a Pokémon game. And there's not a reliable enough way to check all the potential moves a Pokémon can have and how to get them. A reliable way to "build a Pokémon" so you can preplan how you want one of your Pokémon to end up not having to look through external resources.  No moveset calculator either. These have come to be basic features to anyone who takes Pokémon seriously,  yet for all of them, you have to look elsewhere then your Pokémon game. 

And then there's Showdown, a website that you have no functional reason for existing. Show down exists because building your own Pokémon in game that is legit is much too tedious; much too laborious. Now I will always be on the side the thinks that IVs and BPs  should stay in Pokémon. They keep Pokémon statistically individual. But the process of say, raising a Pokémon's BP is frankly stupid. Even with the new stat training.

In an ideal world,  boosting BP (Or as the fans still call it "EV") would be like choosing stats in literally every other JRPG. Level up, and choose the stats you want to boost. The end. No tedious mini games. Just simple stat distribution.

And this is stuff that should be in just the regular handheld games. This isn't even one of my "Pokémon should be on consuls" threads. Do you agree, or do you agree?

I think I disagree with you in terms of it being given from the get go, but I would like more information given to you in the pokedex.

i can't believe im the only one who use veekun :P

i dont like damage calculator... and like smogon for ideas... but my team are usually built from scratch and looks different from the typical mons with the moves and abilities....

Pretty cool idea, maybe the pokedex 3d could have filled this gap on the 3ds but that turned into a ball of shite later on from what I seen.... is it even still being supported or added to anymore?

If you did have something like you suggested tho, it would need updates... like lots of updates all the time, probably just end up being easier to open the browser on the 3ds and navigate to bulbapedia like I did at times.

It would be nice, yes. I'm kinda annoyed I have to do research on how to breed perfect IVs because breeding for competitive battling seems too complicated to me and this actually prevents me to even try :-/

Also Smogon.com is a pretty good website as well. I think they probably have the most respected move set guide and tier list in Pokemon.

 Why do you disagree with getting all the information from the get-go?

A part of the wonder for the Pokemon games have always been the discovering the new pokemon, or pokemon in general. I feel if it all the information is unlocked to you, it loses part of that charm. 

I don't know if I would agree that the discovery of new Pokémon lines up with having a filled Pokédex. While the wonder of discovering Pokémon is definitely valid, I don't believe that the ability to look those Pokémon up whenever you want impedes on tha whenever you want impedes on that. It takes a conscious effort to look up a Pokémon, and by that time, you already decided that you would rather be able to look up the Pokémon then "discovering them on your own." You already willingly opted out of discovering Pokémon through capture.

 There's also the fact that Pokémon isn't a game about collecting to everyone. There shouldn't be a restriction of information placed just because you're not into collecting the Pokémon. There are plenty of ways to encourage "catching them all" without with holding a feature that is literally imperative for world building. For example, there can be a ribbon/figure associated with every Pokemon that is unlocked so when you own one.

The reason I didn't list Smogon is because I don't think Gamefreak should involve themselves in sorting out which Pokemon are "better" than others or recommending strategies/movesets/builds the way Smogon does. I like that Smogon exists, and I use it all the time, but it isn't replacing something nessecary the way Serebii, Bulba, and Showdown are.

Though it might be cool if Gamefreak allowed for a way to upload suggested builds or something in the games. Or like maybe a chart with like the top 20 most used Pokemon in online battles that aren't legendaries. Then dividing it to show the top 10 most used moves for each Pokemon, or like the most used for each type, etc. That way it the community can build a "Smogon lite" within the games.

I think hordes are just as bad. Once you beat the Pokemon league, there should just be a series of trainers with teams of like Blisseys at incredebly high levels that you can battle repeatedly so you can level up quickly.

And with the "choose your own stat distribution apon leveling up," you wouldn't need to worry about all the HP BP you don't want. Post game should be all about making is effortless to build your ultimate team.