I've just been told in the past that I often come across as stating my opinion as fact, so these days I go out of my way to be clear that everything I say is just my personal preference, haha. XD

I'm all for cinematic games existing as niche products to please those who like them; it just worries me that the cinematic approach has worked its way into so many genres and franchises over the last seven or eight years. I don't want it to take hold in the games I love, because it's not my cup of tea.

Well I like cinematic games so I'm glad it's working it's way it.  But rest assured,  there will never be a day where heavy rain or the Wolf among us is the standard. 

I know... seems unreal to read that kind of "spin"! That's the FOX-News, O'Reilly, lobbying mentality: spin, lie, deceive until being exposed, then insult, accuse & spin/lie/deceive more AKA brainwashing!

lol

You forgot the /s at the end...

Again, Sony wasn't forthcoming about how much of a cinematic expeirence The Order is. Why? Shooting fans buy more games than fans of niche genres.

In regards to Beyond: Two Souls. I'm arguing a scene from the ending shouldn't be in the TV ad. That leads people (like me) to believe that's something you would actually see during the campaign. Hence, its misleading.

Some of us were arguing The Order looks too cinematic and boring. Others were trying to lead us into believing the game had more focus on gameplay than it actually does. Why was this discussion happening? Because Sony mislead people about what time of game The Order actually is and now there are many disappointed shooting fans. That's part of the reason it got bad reviews, Sony sold it to the wrong audience in hopes of greater profit.

I'm flat out accusing Sony of being decpetive with their marketing of The Order. I'm not trying to convince you, I'm telling you what I believe.

Lol they can't help it if you ration out how much shooting there's going to be in the game.  You can accuse them of whatever you like the bottom line is the game was advertised as a cinematic TPS and that's exactly what it was.  Sometimes there were longer cutscenes and sometimes there were longer firefights.  You can't tell from advertising what the ratio is going to be and anyone who wants to accuse a company of lying because they've tried to do that is just fishing for accusations.  I'm not sure what game you played but after platinuming it I can safely say that it had plenty of shooting to be called a shooter.

Also while I agree they shouldn't spoil the ending of B2S there's no way you could tell it's from the ending so they aren't spoiling it.  It is in the game however so I'm not sure what you're mad about.  What you thought was in there was in there.

I'm not arguing whether its a shooter. However, Sony was aiming for the average shooter fan in their marketing but The Order is more cinematic than anticipated. I don't think Sony was as forthcoming as they should have been with that. That's why a lot of shooting fans reviewed the game and were disappointed.

And you again missed my point about Beyond: Two Souls. My gripe isn't spoilers, the commerical lead me to believe that scene was part of the game. Not some teaser for a potential sequeal. For example, what if a Marvel movie used a scene from a teaser ending in their trailer? That could mislead people about what happens in the actual movie. Hence, that was the most interesting scene in the entirety of Beyond: Two Souls but it had NOTHING to do with actual story of the game.

Plenty of movies have used ending scenes in their trailers.  If it was an important scene (which I'm thinking the one you're talking about is if it's what I think it is) then it's not exactly unprecedented.  If they had showed the jump from Halo 2 in an ad with no context I wouldn't have minded when I got to the end.  I mean it's not something that I really care about.

People didn't like the order because it was "generic" or whatever.  In fact I'm still not sure what reviewers hated so much exactly as I've played plenty of TPS that play worse.

I actually went into Beyond looking forward to seeing how the game transitions from a relatively normal life to that post apolyptic looking scene. In reality, that never happened because that was just a teaser ending. All I'm saying is that scene shouldn't have been in the ad because its misleading of what actually occurs in the game. Some other movie/game doing something similar doesn't make it okay.

Assuming you haven't done so already, I suggest watching the Angry Joe review of The Order. I think he does a pretty good job of summing up what reviewers disliked about The Order. He still thinks the game worth an experience, but that doesn't mean it deserves a high score.

Wow, even answers about The Order are generic as fark.