I saw a guy watching a 'cut down' version of Nintendo's previous E3 Direct, which just had the claymation stuff and none of the trailers; didn't even know it was Nintendo's E3 from last year... and he says he wants to be a game-developer (he's looking to get into the programming for game design course I'm doing but has never done any courses in web design, multimedia authoring, 3D modelling, digital-art , animation or even film so I don't know how that'll work out for him). Didn't even realize how much praise their reimagining of E3 got in the media.

How 'informed' are modern consumers? I mean, its one thing not to know about Shin-Megami-Tensei or that Project Spark has released but how can someone who thinks they want to be a game designer skip any of the E3 events? I mean Nintendo may not be the most successful, but why would anyone deliberately choose to be uninformed on something that they're supposed to care about? I mean just because someone would be disinterested in actually owning the console doesn't mean they should be turning a blind eye to a third of the industry (and remember, Nintendo means the Wii-U AND the 3DS).

Kids these days seem pretty clueless... you guys have any stories about the 'next generation' actively ignoring Nintendo rather than just disliking their decisions? I mean I have a friend who is a self-confessed PC FANBOY who still watched the twin's conferences and the direct! You can probably already guess that he's in his mid-twenties.

Please explain what this has to do with kids. It seems more like a general problem.

I'm sure it's a combination of kids wanting to be "cool and edgy", and thus ignoring the "kids console" and Nintendo's own policies with Youtube or Twitch that are the main source of information for a lot of young gamers.

Lets be honest ... Nintendo hasn't been "cool" since about 1992/93 when Sega began to outmarket them. That just continued in through the Sony/MS era. Aside from a few pockets here and there (N64 launch + having GoldenEye and Wii before it became old hat).

True. But I think it can be solved by them making some great ios/android games. If they could start making swing copter-like games with their IP and music, it wouldn't take long for the younger generation to get hooked on their brand all over again. 

I've just noticed it tends to be people younger people, teens and such, who seem to lack an interest in the interconnected details of the industry such as how Nintendo influences The Twins and indies, so does PC for that... well everything, truthfully everything effects everything; in the case of Nintendo in particular it seems like the mainstream thinks they somehow exist in the vacuum.

Maybe it is because the rest of us are just older and wiser about these things? 

Nintendo isn't even close to one third of the gaming industry. Lots of developers don't give them (or consoles generally) a second thought these days, and they do just fine.

Or just more informed about the gaming industry.

They pretty much ARE the handheld market. I guess that makes them one-fourth (PC, console, handheld, mobile) of the market on paper given their serious issues in the console space? I just didn't think about mobile gaming the first time I wrote that, which was a blunder on my part.

Except the shriveled handheld market is nowhere near the size of the other three, and most developers couldn't care less about it as shown by the pitiful software situation on handhelds.