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Insidb on 21 February 2015
Angelus said:
Insidb said:

I have to play The Order before I can make an objective comparison, but MGS4 was VERY long and loaded with content. By cinematic comparison, a game with 6-8 hours of footage would warrant a blu-ray movie price tag of $60 (Most movies are overpriced at $20, but that's the going rate.). I think one issue (problem) MGS4 had was the need to wrap up every plot point, because it was supposed to be the finale. 


Sorry I didn't mean to imply MGS4 was light on content (though I did object to the form of a majority of said content) if that's the impression you got from my post. Just that I don't feel it's in any way great video game in regards to what I expect from a video game.

I wasn't even remotely offended and I understand your view; I was very happy, as I found it to be a very fitting conclusion to the story line.

Except...it wasn't the conclusion...



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Angelus on 21 February 2015
tiffac said:
Angelus said:


You are absolutely right to question that. MGS is one of my favourite franchises, 1 and 3 (particularly 3) are some of my favourite games of all time, but 4 is a sorry excuse for a game. The whole thing was a cheap shot fanfare production rehashing every possible plot point they could from previous games with a never ending sea of cutscenes of outrageous length. It even regressed in many key areas on the gameplay side of things from the third game. It's honestly one of the most disappointing games I ever played. Fortunately Phantom Pain looks to be the game that MGS4 always should have been IMO

 


The majority of MGS fans only cared about the story and how Kojima will retire Solid Snake. He then reunited all the favorite MGS characters in that game, it was like eye candy galore (The BBs weren't hard on the eyes too. lol!). So the complaints about the cutscenes was largely ignored because the greater portion of the fanbase was satisfied with the presentation and how it ended for everyone.

At least there was no QTE overkill. lol!


Ya I understand why the people who love the game do, but even knowing their reason I just personally don't agree with it at all. 

But I don't really wanna go down that road any further as this thread is about The Order. Was just a little segway note.



Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 21 February 2015

I enjoyed the youtube movie ;) Really though, I dont have a ps4 anyway and the game seems really immersive



Yay!!!

0815user on 21 February 2015
The_Sony_Girl1 said:
0815user said:
The_Sony_Girl1 said:
Ow! All I really wanted to get a good third person shooter.....

so, what's hindering you giving this one a try? never liked a game that got mixed reviews?

There's barely any shooting parts from what I've heard.

on hard about one fourth of the games total playtime is shooting i'd say.



Euphoria14 on 21 February 2015

Been playing the game for the last 2 nights and only put maybe 2 hours in each time.

Not a ton of gunplay, but what I have experienced is fun. Playing on Hard difficulty as well.

I will say though, I am in chapter 5 I think, just reached the blimp, and I love sequences like the one where I was being attacked by the Lycan and I basically shot away at it and watched a minute or so of cutscene before moving back to another shooting sequence.

I like stuff like this.


Is this game perfect? No way, but so far I am having a very enjoyable time. This is likely due to me not always just expecting games to be a certain way. If they were always the same then things would get really boring. I like to try something different, plus I am a movie junkie too, so this game, to me, is great enjoyment.

Just don't go into it expecting a Gears of War or a Uncharted or even The Last of Us. You will be left disappointed. Instead go into the experience expecting it to be exactly what it was intended to be, which is a full on cinematic adventure with less than normal player input.



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tokilamockingbrd on 21 February 2015
curl-6 said:
tokilamockingbrd said:
The gaming review system is broken.

This is a situation where the English teacher is trying grade your Math. You nailed your equations but she is give you an F because your grammar was bad, and she really does not like Math to begin with.

It's more like RAD submitting a maths essay for an English class. It's the teacher's job to assess the English, the fact that the student chose to submit maths instead is their mistake.


No it is really neithers fault. Reviewers are going to review games based on what they think their readers want from games. Most core gamers want certain things 1886 does not have so reviewers punished the game.

RAD did not make a mistake by making a game reviewers dont like. I loved it, many others will to. This type of game is what Playstation has always been about. Not just catering to a few popular genres but build diverse library of games that has something for everyone.



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tokilamockingbrd on 21 February 2015
Euphoria14 said:
Been playing the game for the last 2 nights and only put maybe 2 hours in each time.

Not a ton of gunplay, but what I have experienced is fun. Playing on Hard difficulty as well.

I will say though, I am in chapter 5 I think, just reached the blimp, and I love sequences like the one where I was being attacked by the Lycan and I basically shot away at it and watched a minute or so of cutscene before moving back to another shooting sequence.

I like stuff like this.


Is this game perfect? No way, but so far I am having a very enjoyable time. This is likely due to me not always just expecting games to be a certain way. If they were always the same then things would get really boring. I like to try something different, plus I am a movie junkie too, so this game, to me, is great enjoyment.

Just don't go into it expecting a Gears of War or a Uncharted or even The Last of Us. You will be left disappointed. Instead go into the experience expecting it to be exactly what it was intended to be, which is a full on cinematic adventure with less than normal player input.

game really picks up about right where you are. I liked it at 1st, I began to love it around chapter 6. The gameplay sequences get longer and some interesting characters are introduce.



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curl-6 on 21 February 2015
tokilamockingbrd said:
curl-6 said:

It's more like RAD submitting a maths essay for an English class. It's the teacher's job to assess the English, the fact that the student chose to submit maths instead is their mistake.

No it is really neithers fault. Reviewers are going to review games based on what they think their readers want from games. Most core gamers want certain things 1886 does not have so reviewers punished the game.

RAD did not make a mistake by making a game reviewers dont like. I loved it, many others will to. This type of game is what Playstation has always been about. Not just catering to a few popular genres but build diverse library of games that has something for everyone.

Bingo. There's nothing "broken" about criticising a game for doing things most gamers won't like.

As to this kind of game being what Playstation is all about, that's honestly why I've lost interest in Playstation. They're too focussed on being cinematic.



tokilamockingbrd on 21 February 2015
curl-6 said:
tokilamockingbrd said:

No it is really neithers fault. Reviewers are going to review games based on what they think their readers want from games. Most core gamers want certain things 1886 does not have so reviewers punished the game.

RAD did not make a mistake by making a game reviewers dont like. I loved it, many others will to. This type of game is what Playstation has always been about. Not just catering to a few popular genres but build diverse library of games that has something for everyone.

Bingo. There's nothing "broken" about criticising a game for doing things most gamers won't like.

As to this kind of game being what Playstation is all about, that's honestly why I've lost interest in Playstation. They're too focussed on being cinematic.


thats because everyone else is making the other Genres.... I mean they have made FPS games but there are multiple 3rd party FPS games that are just better. No 3rd party is making these types of games, at least at the AAA level(Tomb Raider might be the only other one, which is why MS bought that). I do wish they would make some platformers again. I think 3D platformers are primed for a comeback. And Nintendo has left the door open for someone to grab that audience by not releasing a true 3d mario platformer.



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curl-6 on 21 February 2015
tokilamockingbrd said:
curl-6 said:

Bingo. There's nothing "broken" about criticising a game for doing things most gamers won't like.

As to this kind of game being what Playstation is all about, that's honestly why I've lost interest in Playstation. They're too focussed on being cinematic.

thats because everyone else is making the other Genres.... I mean they have made FPS games but there are multiple 3rd party FPS games that are just better. No 3rd party is making these types of games, at least at the AAA level(Tomb Raider might be the only other one, which is why MS bought that). I do wish they would make some platformers again. I think 3D platformers are primed for a comeback. And Nintendo has left the door open for someone to grab that audience by not releasing a true 3d mario platformer.

That's why PS1 era Sony is my favourite; the focus was on the gameplay. Too often these days it feels like it's all about the graphics and story, which for me are not selling points.