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3D world isn't the Mario game I wanted but it's still a must have game.


This. And it was way better than Sunshine. Sunshine only had the inter-connected world design as its positive.

And 3D World Multiplayer is almost as good as Mario Kart 8 for me because I love platformers. Hell it might even be better since there are more levels to play. The only negative is no online mutiplayer.

The next one should let you race other people online but not be able to interact with them like in local multiplayer. This can considerably reduce any lag. Ghost data does this but you don't get to race against the same player into the next level or world.



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Every 3D Mario game is a must buy and yes even Sunshine which I found to be a warm refreshing entry in the Mario series.

3D World while not the SMG3 everyone was hoping for, is still a fantastic game that should be enjoyed by all Wii U owners, especially in co-op!



I remember reading a while back that 3d world wasn't really developed by the core team that does the main mario games??? I think??? Maybe???

Anywho, I also heard that 3d world was never meant to be the "main" Mario game for the Wii U but that one has been in development for some time and will be released eventually.

Personally, the only Mario game that I literally obsess over coming out each generation is Paper Mario. I just want Paper Mario U. If everything else in the gaming world was delayed so I could have that tomorrow, I'd be ok with that! lol



Maybe my memories of Mario Galaxy deceive me, but i really can't see a relevant difference between Mario Galaxy and 3D World. Because all i see is a level split in chunks and in 3D World it really felt that the chunks were bigger than in Mario Galaxy.

3D World is a great Mario game. A must-have, to me.
2D Mario on Wii U was the best New 2D Mario game i played of all the three i played (never played the 3DS one). Also a must-have game even if the look of the game got old.



3D World is must have, the problem is the Wii U is probably the first home console Nintendo ever put out that was not built around its main controller and sadly most games reflect that mind state.

Nintendo has done nothing with the Wii U's Gamepad besides provide another place to play a game other then on a TV since it released Nintendoland. If the Gamepad was the central idea of the console they have done a crap job showcasing it or a crap job with trying to have all the options available from the Wii to present still work because it undercuts what could and should have been their console's main selling point.


Not even a great Mario game like 3D World can fully overcome such a handicap as that. Maybe Smash Bros along with Mario Kart ultimately will but you can't blame it on one game.



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DélioPT said:
Maybe my memories of Mario Galaxy deceive me, but i really can't see a relevant difference between Mario Galaxy and 3D World. Because all i see is a level split in chunks and in 3D World it really felt that the chunks were bigger than in Mario Galaxy.

I think the main thing that sets Galaxy apart from 3D World for me is the tone of it. Where Galaxy goes for grand and epic, 3D World went for simple and fun. It means that 3D World is an absolute blast to play but Galaxy is the game that leaves the more lasting impression on me. The visual styling, soundtrack and setting just set it apart.

There are also small gameplay design things for me like the fact that 3D World is designed for multiplayer - while great - does restrict it in some ways. Level design and camera positioning are just hampered slightly for me compared to Galaxy.



Guitarguy said:

I'm not certain if Nintendo view Mario 3d world as a true 3D Mario title like Super Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy. If they do, chances are that we won't see another true 3D Mario title on the Wii U given how badly it is selling. The Wii go two full blown 3D Mario games(Galaxy I & II) whilst the N64 and the Gamecube only received one each(Super Mario 64 and Sunshine, respectively). In my opinion this was due to the low sales of the N64 and Gamecube, it simply was not worth the man-power to make another full fledged 3D Mario. This was not the case with the Wii which was selling insanely at the time and had a very large user base. Probably smarter to dedicate those developers to finishing up the Wii U incarnation of Zelda...

I would really love to see a full blown 3D Mario on the Wii U hardware. Galaxy was great and made up for Sunshine's disappointments. I don't think they should focus on the gamepad second screen gimmick though, it's about as innovative as the Six-axis function on the Dual Shock 3. Just focus on polished visuals, inventive worlds and that magical Mario gameplay!

install base has nothing to do with why Wii got two 3D Mario's and N64/GC only got one. Mario 64 sold more than Galaxy on 1/3 the install base so that rules out your theory.

i think it was Miyamoto who said they had so many ideas for Galaxy but they didnt have enough time to incorporate them all so they made a sequel.



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DélioPT said:
Maybe my memories of Mario Galaxy deceive me, but i really can't see a relevant difference between Mario Galaxy and 3D World. Because all i see is a level split in chunks and in 3D World it really felt that the chunks were bigger than in Mario Galaxy.

3D World is a great Mario game. A must-have, to me.
2D Mario on Wii U was the best New 2D Mario game i played of all the three i played (never played the 3DS one). Also a must-have game even if the look of the game got old.


There are big differences between 3D World and Galaxy. The levels in 3D World are timed, while they are not in Galaxy. The goal of the Galaxy levels is to get a star at the end, while in 3D World, the goal is to try and collect 3 stars per level and reach the flagpole before time expires. 3D World is basically a traditional 2D Mario game made in 3D, while Galaxy is an entirely different type of game.



The GameCube didn't have a must have Mario platformer...
Yes, I am implying that Super Mario Sunshine is not a just have game...



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No, it is absolutely a must-have game. It sounds to me like you have dismissed the game without significant play time and there are few things I have less patience for that ill-informed opinions.

The quality difference between the Galaxy games and 3D World is negligible, having said that the Galaxy games probably have their collective noses in front. To be honest though, if 'must have' means a game needs to be as good as, or exceed, the Galaxy games then you might as well give up gaming now because that's going to happen very few times in your life, if ever.