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KBG29 said:
Charlesabl8770 said:

that would make them Sony and Microsoft greedy, like EA:

-Instead of making the Pro and X, why they couldnt haven made the PS4 and XB1 more powerful in the first place? Instead of the kinect for the XB1, why not just for more power, in fact Pro and X just make devs put more time on their games

-Look at this: https://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/09/08/ps4-pro-the-ultimate-faq/

Q: Will PS4 Pro have separate or exclusive games?
There will not be any PS4 Pro-exclusive games. Because PS4 Pro and the standard PS4 are members of the same family, both systems will be fully compatible with all past, present, and future PS4 titles, including PlayStation VR. All PS4 games are PS4 Pro games, and vice-versa.

Following PS4 Pro’s launch on November 10 in North America, virtually all new PS4 game releases moving forward will be able to take advantage of PS4 Pro capabilities on day one, or in some cases shortly after launch via a downloadable update. Some titles previously released will be updated to take advantage of PS4 Pro features, including Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, The Last of Us Remastered, Infamous Second Son First Light, Shadow of Mordor, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and more.

-Look at many games like Spiderman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jStRBmQ2CGo, Same frame rate, Same Graphics, just make the Pro feel cashgrab

The response to PS3 is why we couldn't have PS4 Pro and XBO X like consoles on day one. The mass market put the brakes on expensive, high end console gaming.

Don't buy into the hysteria around Pro and X adding to development. It takes very little time, and very few people to optimize for these mid gen upgrades. 

As someone with PSVR and a 75" Display, I can assure you my PS4 Pro and XBO X do not feel like cash grabs in the least. Even if the only difference is resolution, having the Pro at 1440p vs 1080p on the OG unit makes a huge difference. I even find it worth while to play games on the X over the Pro if it means the difference between 1440p and 4K. Resolution alone makes a major difference the larger the display gets.

I would feel truly cashgrab if Pro has separate exclusives, you spend $400 on PS4 in 2013, then another $400 on Pro in 2016, just to play many games, a rip-off:

-If only players realized that specs are important and could pay like $630 on the PS4, a game like Cyberpunk 2077 wouldnt be a problem if was equivalent to GTX 780(which was the best high end GPU you would get in 2013) and if GTX 780 was underpowered compared to the PS4 CPU

A example why CPU is important: from GTA SA to GTA IV

for RAM: the frame rates of Skyrim on PS3

for GPU: i dont know, its just graphics and resolution

-the Xbox 360 costed $526 in 2005, which is equivalent to $627 in 2013: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-taking-126-hit-per-xbox-360/1100-6140383/



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Today there is no cell phone that can run something like Horizon Zero Dawn....without melting....consoles are here to stay because the core gamer can only get that type of experience in it or on a mid to high end PC which is a more expensive endeavor without many of the exclusives. So Consoles will survive.



SammyGiireal said:
Today there is no cell phone that can run something like Horizon Zero Dawn....without melting....consoles are here to stay because the core gamer can only get that type of experience in it or on a mid to high end PC which is a more expensive endeavor without many of the exclusives. So Consoles will survive.

PC has it's own exclusives though, and not all mid end rigs are "expensive" either.



                                       

Chazore said:
SammyGiireal said:
Today there is no cell phone that can run something like Horizon Zero Dawn....without melting....consoles are here to stay because the core gamer can only get that type of experience in it or on a mid to high end PC which is a more expensive endeavor without many of the exclusives. So Consoles will survive.

PC has it's own exclusives though, and not all mid end rigs are "expensive" either.

They do which is why said "many of the exclusives".

But clearly a lot of people can't live without Sony exclusives as demonstrated by the PS4 sales numbers . So as along as Sony doesn't allow them to go multiplat there will always be a huge segment of gamers willing to buy consoles.



deskpro2k3 said:
Who necro'd this? Lol

OP did to add injury to the insult.

He was so wrong that he necroed to be even more wrong.



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SammyGiireal said:
Chazore said:

PC has it's own exclusives though, and not all mid end rigs are "expensive" either.

They do which is why said "many of the exclusives".

But clearly a lot of people can't live without Sony exclusives as demonstrated by the PS4 sales numbers . So as along as Sony doesn't allow them to go multiplat there will always be a huge segment of gamers willing to buy consoles.

You said "without many of the exclusives".

There are a lot more gamers out there that aren't on Sony systems as well. Gaming isn't just made up of just 3 consoles and one OS, it's made up of multiple OS's, multiple consoles and devices. There are practically a lot more gamers out there in total, than there on on PC or consoles alone.

The way Xbox is headed, they are just giving people choices, even Sony sees this though, and it's honestly a good thing, because it means more options, means more consumers, means more money. 



                                       

deskpro2k3 said:
Who necro'd this? Lol

The OP...



Honestly i don't mind being wrong or being percieved as wrong. Its a good discussion to be had right now. Now my assumption might not have happend in the timeframe i set but wouldnt it be great to have for lets say 10 -20 euros a month extra a device you would have had otherwise anyway that can stream or play what consoles or older pcs can play aswell hell maybe even highend pcs with enough technological advancements? Instead of simply saying no, think with me



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The OP makes no sense, especially now. If anything, Sony has made consoles more relevant by pushing for extremely high quality exclusive games.

Not trying to put MS or Xbox down in any way, as I thoroughly appreciate MS for their support to the PC community, but their push in the PC market has essentially made Xbox more or less an affordable way to play their games, while core games that are truly interested in getting the best will get them through PC.



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