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Can PS4 outsell XO 2:1?

Yes 573 76.71%
 
No 112 14.99%
 
I don't care 62 8.30%
 
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Xenostar said:
I kind of expect MS Deep pockets to kick in before it gets that bad for them, price cuts will be big if they were looking at a 33% vs 66% marketshare against PS4.


Why ?

Their pockets were just as deep months ago yet they still launched at 100 more then PS4. 



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pezus said:
Dark_Feanor said:
Only if the ratio continues throught out every hollydays season, where basicaly 60% of yearly sales are accounted.

Last hollydays the ratio was 4 to 3... so, the chances are slim of a 2 to 1 ratio even if nothing changes.

Let's ignore that PS4 completely sold out whenever it got some stock. There were weeks where it sold close to nothing (like the week after launch).


Yes, let ignore it, because we don´t have any data that supports a sortage free hollydays season. And we don´t know the total demand for either console outside the launch window.

Plus, I also expect the PS4, and XOne, to suffer from shortages this hollydays season.



BeElite said:
Xenostar said:
I kind of expect MS Deep pockets to kick in before it gets that bad for them, price cuts will be big if they were looking at a 33% vs 66% marketshare against PS4.


Why ?

Their pockets were just as deep months ago yet they still launched at 100 more then PS4. 


Because they dont want to make a loss from the outset, they wanted to see if they could make it work, weve seen them doing trials with giving away titanfall and temporary price cuts to see how that boosts sales. 

But dont doubt that marketshare is still very important to them, they will cut price to stay competitive, that could mean a new hardware SKU as well. 



kowenicki said:
BeElite said:
Will happen sooner not later.
first 3 months jan4 to april 5

Ps4 2537289
X1 1097485

in theory by Oct it may be.
10.1 m to 4.3 add 2013s 4.4m and 3m
So 14.4 to 7.4

By october overall sales may be double in favor of PS4, might likely happen sooner.

Japan launch skews that I'm afraid.  Unfortunately it cant launch in Japan every quarter this year.

Look at NA and Europe for same period.

1.03m versus 1.79m

(and another 7.6m PS4's sold through by October? really!?)

 

 

Thus in theory i said.

Japan will be good for some decent sales doring the holidays, wont it ? sales X1 will not get. 

Could be said X1 good Titan 450 unoffical price cut March skewed the numebrs, i could go by PS4 doin closer to 2-1 sales for the time for NA.  And something near triple for Europe.  All mere numbers play.

Either or, PS4 will badly out sale it.  When it hits overall double is just a fun guess.  But it will hit it.



Seems pretty unlikely in the short term. PS4 would have to outsell the XBO more than 2:1 for quite a while to get to that point and I don't really see any major exclusive system sellers on either side for a while. Additionally, the XBox brand has traditionally done better in the holiday season so it should at the very least hold its ground for a while. It could happen eventually but it seems doubtful to me



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Xenostar said:
BeElite said:
Xenostar said:
I kind of expect MS Deep pockets to kick in before it gets that bad for them, price cuts will be big if they were looking at a 33% vs 66% marketshare against PS4.


Why ?

Their pockets were just as deep months ago yet they still launched at 100 more then PS4. 


Because they dont want to make a loss from the outset, they wanted to see if they could make it work, weve seen them doing trials with giving away titanfall and temporary price cuts to see how that boosts sales. 

But dont doubt that marketshare is still very important to them, they will cut price to stay competitive, that could mean a new hardware SKU as well. 

Makes sense.

I just dont see then taking that big a hit needed to really achieve near PS4 sales. 



kowenicki said:

Definitive.

This is so similar to two all time great VGC threads.  Keep it coming guys.

- Japans 500k

2m to 1.1

Still not looking great for X1



Can't see it happening this year. If things continue the way they are, perhaps mid 2015. No sooner than April 2015 would be my guess.



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kowenicki said:
pezus said:
Dark_Feanor said:
Only if the ratio continues throught out every hollydays season, where basicaly 60% of yearly sales are accounted.

Last hollydays the ratio was 4 to 3... so, the chances are slim of a 2 to 1 ratio even if nothing changes.

Let's ignore that PS4 completely sold out whenever it got some stock. There were weeks where it sold close to nothing (like the week after launch).


lets ignore you can only launch once.


Both vaild points that need to be takin into consideration. I believe XBone will have a strong holiday push in NA if they anounce a price cut around that time they could sell 1 to 1 maybe even 1.5 to 1.



It's more likely to be 20m/10m



 

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