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Chandler said:
brendude13 said:
Chandler said:
brendude13 said:

I'll spell it out for you.

Being this forum's W101 and WiiU mascot, you of all people shouldn't be poking fun at sales figures and implying they're directly correlated to quality.


Except that I never said that TW101 is the best thing ever or anything in that regard. I like it a lot but I am not delusional enough to deny the many flaws of the game. So let me spell this out for you: The point you are making is based on nothing but asumptions and thus it did indeed fly right over my head. The same goes for the WIi U itself. I can like things without declaring them "best of everything ever" all the time.

So games that you really like are allowed to absolutely bomb but your #1 favourite has to sell well? Yeah, ok.

What exactly did I assume again?

I think that by now you are the only one left who even has a remote idea of what you are talking about and I`m not even sure about that anymore. At no point in your incoherent rambling did you even touch on anything I said, so I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.

Nice try.



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brendude13 said:
Chandler said:
brendude13 said:
Chandler said:
brendude13 said:

I'll spell it out for you.

Being this forum's W101 and WiiU mascot, you of all people shouldn't be poking fun at sales figures and implying they're directly correlated to quality.


Except that I never said that TW101 is the best thing ever or anything in that regard. I like it a lot but I am not delusional enough to deny the many flaws of the game. So let me spell this out for you: The point you are making is based on nothing but asumptions and thus it did indeed fly right over my head. The same goes for the WIi U itself. I can like things without declaring them "best of everything ever" all the time.

So games that you really like are allowed to absolutely bomb but your #1 favourite has to sell well? Yeah, ok.

What exactly did I assume again?

I think that by now you are the only one left who even has a remote idea of what you are talking about and I`m not even sure about that anymore. At no point in your incoherent rambling did you even touch on anything I said, so I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.

Nice try.

Whoa what a smackdown, I'm trembling. I guess this conversation is over then.



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dharh said:

@Kaizar,

See, I think the 3D actually ruins the image. It's like flat 3D to me and I highly dislike it. Basically I am not impressed by the 3D in the slightest and the fact that because of the 3D the screen resolution and the power in the machine has to suffer makes it a liability in my eyes. Much like the dual screens are a distraction for me and also wreck an otherwise good machine. I would have been perfectly happy with my DS (though it couldn't have been called the DS, heh) and would have bought the 'DS2' if it had not been for the second screen and the 3D. Much like the XBONE and its kinnect, making it perhaps $100 more expensive out of the gate than it had to be, for a peripheral I will not ever use.

"Best RPGs past & present, the 3DS has Tales of the Abyss 3D & Project X Zone & Code of Princes & Paper Mario Sticker Star & King of Pirates (trilogy) & Kingdom Hearts 3D & Dillon's Rolling Western 1 and 2 & Bravely Default & Beyond the Labyrinth & etc."

That's, like, just your opinion man. I don't agree at all. Not withstanding the simple fact that one of those games can be had elsewhere, in a better manner, again IMO. Tales of the Abyss specifically is better on the PS2.

"240p 3D > 4K HD 2D > 1080p 2D > 720p 2D > 540p 2D
Just had to clear those things up."

Again entirely your opinion. I wholeheartedly disagree, and I am not the only one. I daresay that there is also a portion of 3DS owners, I'm not going to be asinine to say I know what proportion, bought it not at all because of the 3D but because they want the games it could offer. In other words they would probably have bought it with or without the 3D.


It just uses cache to do the 3D effect, same goes for Batman Arkham games (3D on the PS3 & 360)

I don't know why you didn't get the 3DS XL, after I have read your post.



dharh said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
dharh said:


I look at the 3D on the 3DS and it still looks flat to me. It's akin to those lame 3D cards that you can look at that have a 3D image in it if you move it around in your field of vision. I know its not the same lameness, but its still lame to me.

You should watch the RED Bull 3D things on the NIntendo video app or the the MR Download videos

The landscapes and stuff pull up out the image and the depth perception helps you make out the details

A higher res scree+ 3D is going to be awesome. I play my PC games in 3D and they look fantastic.

You're eyes adjust to it in some strange way after some time so its not as prominent

I'll take your word on the higher res 3D screens. What I see now with the 3DS is very janky pixilated flat 3D. I'm not going to invest my eyes just to get used to it. Maybe in the future if they drop the 2nd screen and bring us a higher resolution single screen handheld it will work for me, but until then its going to always be a no go for me.


You can adjust the volume of 3D  on the 3DS. If you have it all the way up, then turn it down a little bit, and it will look much more better. (problem created by firmware updates on the depth sliders proper function)



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BlowoverKing said:
Kaizar said:
@dharh

Modern screen, the PS Vital has 540p resolution screen while the 3DS has a Glasses-free 3D screen which OS only in 4K HD TVs.

Best RPGs past & present, the 3DS has Tales of the Abyss 3D & Project X Zone & Code of Princes & Paper Mario Sticker Star & King of Pirates (trilogy) & Kingdom Hearts 3D & Dillon's Rolling Western 1 and 2 & Bravely Default & Beyond the Labyrinth & etc.

And Netflix & Hulu Plus streams 3D movies, Pacific Rim anyone. And full digital 3D movies to download are coming to the eShop. Don't forget the 3D camera to record 3D videos and take 3D photos with way more post processing of the images then the Vital can do, because they both got underclock CPUs, but clearly one is undercloc lower the the other as shown in post processing of their cameras images. And Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate does more then 130 million polygons in Vertex Performence on both Handhelds (both 3DS & Vital seperate versions). And there's this:

240p 3D > 4K HD 2D > 1080p 2D > 720p 2D > 540p 2D
Just had to clear those things up.


You REALLY need stop with these asinine posts. Honestly I feel like I lose brain cells when I read one of your posts. All your doing is making yourself look like a complete fool plus you add nothing sensible to the discussion.

3D is way much more clearer & anti-aliasing & vivid looking.

You are just in denial.

Go see a 3D movie in 2D and then see the same movie in 3D afterwards within several hours.

You should stop making assumptions on 3D. At least I have seen and compare it and often at that.



PS vita is a great machine and people love when they use it. It has games with quality in terms of console but people used to nintendo machines in portables and their IP's. Also 3DS has price advantage and being kids oriented games so every family like to have one, whereas Vita is mostly hardware core gamers machine so it needs more innovations and selling points which its getting with PS4 and more games in future. Vita has bright future with its hardware potential, sony studios and PS4 companion. 3DS can be good for a year or two then its not going to keep up. 

The point is Sony not losing money on PS Vita and it just that they are not earning good profits with it right now. So, its no worries for sony and their profits going to increase in furue when more games comes and PS4 support. So, Vita will have atleast 50 million life time and at max close to 80 million.

 

Its not sales what we should consider about device and its about how much you enjoy. It brings value in many ways with PS+, cross-buy and hardware potential, media capablities etc.,  Vita is more worth it for the price and has bright future.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

biglittlesps said:

  3DS can be good for a year or two then its not going to keep up. 

The point is Sony not losing money on PS Vita and it just that they are not earning good profits with it right now. So, its no worries for sony and their profits going to increase in furue when more games comes and PS4 support. So, Vita will have atleast 50 million life time and at max close to 80 million.

 

Ummm Wat? 3DS will have another year or two? are you serious? 3DS will outsell vita for the next 4 possibly 5 years. I agree in vita being alive cuz where Sony exceeds in is long term hardware life but thinking 3DS will not keep up? Have you seen the sales? 3DS is going up every year, vita is about to be down YoY.

3DS hasnt even reached half of its life cycle yet!

Also vita max lifetime wont be anywhere near 80mil, psp did a great job with sales and it hit that mark. I believe vita will sell alot but 50mil is farfetched as well. 20mil-40mil lifetime.

 

3DS sales

2011= 13.6mil   2012= 14.2mil   2013= 16mil-18mil 

Why would you think 3DS will end in 2015/16?



Kaizar said:
dharh said:

@Kaizar,

See, I think the 3D actually ruins the image. It's like flat 3D to me and I highly dislike it. Basically I am not impressed by the 3D in the slightest and the fact that because of the 3D the screen resolution and the power in the machine has to suffer makes it a liability in my eyes. Much like the dual screens are a distraction for me and also wreck an otherwise good machine. I would have been perfectly happy with my DS (though it couldn't have been called the DS, heh) and would have bought the 'DS2' if it had not been for the second screen and the 3D. Much like the XBONE and its kinnect, making it perhaps $100 more expensive out of the gate than it had to be, for a peripheral I will not ever use.

"Best RPGs past & present, the 3DS has Tales of the Abyss 3D & Project X Zone & Code of Princes & Paper Mario Sticker Star & King of Pirates (trilogy) & Kingdom Hearts 3D & Dillon's Rolling Western 1 and 2 & Bravely Default & Beyond the Labyrinth & etc."

That's, like, just your opinion man. I don't agree at all. Not withstanding the simple fact that one of those games can be had elsewhere, in a better manner, again IMO. Tales of the Abyss specifically is better on the PS2.

"240p 3D > 4K HD 2D > 1080p 2D > 720p 2D > 540p 2D
Just had to clear those things up."

Again entirely your opinion. I wholeheartedly disagree, and I am not the only one. I daresay that there is also a portion of 3DS owners, I'm not going to be asinine to say I know what proportion, bought it not at all because of the 3D but because they want the games it could offer. In other words they would probably have bought it with or without the 3D.


It just uses cache to do the 3D effect, same goes for Batman Arkham games (3D on the PS3 & 360)

I don't know why you didn't get the 3DS XL, after I have read your post.

The screen itself is specially made for the 3D effect. There _is_ a cost to using that cache for the effect as well. It might be 'minor', but you put everything together and it increased costs that I think should have gone into a single higher resolution larger non-3D screen.

I didn't get the 3DS, especially not the XL due to its even worse resolution ratio, primarily because of the dual screens. I bought 20+ games on the original DS and for the life of me almost every game was a disappointment.

Even games I know I like, such as FFIII, ended up looking _worse_ than its original from  over a decade ago. The original old school 2D sprites at least endearing. The 3D model remake was utter trash. I can't imagine how much worse it would have looked if it had actually been made for the 3DS.



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