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Dudebro games are awesome imo



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A game is a game, no matter the style.



Kyuu said:
Luck said:
Kyuu said:
Gamers who appreciate art, well told stories, and innovation see them as nothing but an obstacle that prevents people from experiencing much better available games, thus a discouragement for the development of high quality, meaningful games.

There is a conception that games like Call of Duty are largely the reason why the likes of Shadow of The Colossus are unknown and unsupported. That's why they're hated.

I'll answer to those who think that way.

No! You are not allowed to try and do an objective hierarchical classification of human creations, that would make you an arrogant elitist. The sensibilities of those who prefer ''dudebro'' games over Shadow of the Colossus are just as good as yours. The games are all equally meaningful because it's all relative to one's perception. There are no such things as objectivity when it comes to human creation, it's all about what the individual prefer. Don't you dare trying to be objective! Arguments are boring anyway, Id rather stay comfy and at ease within subjectivity.
 

They're free to express whatever they want. While I don't completely agree with them, I can easily relate to why they dislike this category of games, there is nothing bad about having negative views, even expressing them towards what you think is doing disservice to the gaming industry and which may potentially expand to reality. We are of course allowed to argue about it.

Perception has no absolute value whatsoever. Some people get satisfaction out of massacring people in GTA but that does not make that game morally equivalent to Shadow of The Colossus.

It is also a gamer's perception that dudebro games downgrade the gaming community, They're not imposing anything over anybody, they're merely thinking critically, believing "shoot and kill" is not a decent approach unless there is a strong and meaningful message behind the violence. Well pardon me but I respect that view even if I partially disagree with it. I wouldn't call them arrogant elitists.

You are on a roll, that was two great posts by you! I mostly agree and I like the spirit of your thinking, I was merely being caricatural and sarcastic in my response to your first post. 



I don't hate dudebro games. I just consider them casual games intended for an older male audience. I consume in a lot of them too.



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KingdomHeartsFan said:

The industry needs games like Cod and Madden etc to keep growing, people can hate them all they like, but without them gaming would be trouble.

So much truth here.  This is the reason why the gaming industry has grown exponentially over the past decade and a half.

Unless you think niche games and genres in conjunction with endless sequels to decades old IPs would have been enough to sell over 250 million consoles this gen alone.



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You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

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Wright said:

A game is a game, no matter the style.

That's the truth but at the same time do you believe there is such things as a casual gamer or hardcore gamer ?



I don't like these games unless they got some interesting twists that alter gameplay or add completely new mechanics. They also don't have much replay value, unless you join competitive scene.

Only shooter I'm investing time on atm is Planetside 2, mostly cause it evolves into more and more depthful FPS game in time (albeit rather slowly).



BloodyRain said:

Some people, especially on the internet use the term "dudebro" for some games in a negative way, which includes the likes of halo, cod, bf, madden, killzone etc. Do people just not like them because they are more successful then there preferred genre title? Is it something else entirely? I enjoy alot of this so called dudebro games and don't really see whats the problem with them. They obviously appeal to a ton of people, just look at cod sales every year. Some titles may lack innovation like madden and cod, but they are still relatively enjoyable games if you are into those genres. Some people act like they are the plague or something. What do you think of them? Is it just the internet being the internet?

 

 

 

The problem is, that this is what the industry has become. The reason that CoD and Madden and Halo, and Assasin's Creed, etc. sell so well every year, is because we now live in the "GameStop era" of gaming, wherein there is a whole new generation of what I refer to as "GameStop kids", who are gamers that literally only seem to care about the "big blockbuster AAA titles" that come out, that GameStop urges them to pre-order, which they do, then beat it, play it online for awhile, and then trade it back in towards their next pre-order. This is a generation of gamer that doesn't seem to value building up game collections you can be proud of. They don't seem to place high value on uniqueness, quirkiness, creativity, etc. in game design. They want the shiniest HD graphics possible, and they want the best online modes to play on XBL. That's basically what the issue many gamers have is.

I have personaly described, in a GameStop to one of their employees even (to which he genuinely laughed and agreed), that Call of Duty specifically, has become the McDonalds of gaming. "Everyone" consumes it, but it has no real substance of value. That doesn't mean their poorly made games, nor that there's something wrong with you if you enjoy playing them. However, there IS something wrong with shitting out a new iteration of a franchise every single year, with very few real changes. You just can't honestly and earnestly put in any true effort into a game's development if you are pumping them out 1 per year. And yes, I know that CoD now has now 2 but three (apparently) seperate studios making games round the clock. Maybe they'll get to the point like they were with Guitar Hero, where they were releasing more than one a year. I'm sure they would love to be able to pull that off with CoD, and at least for awhile, I do believe those same gamers would indeed buy them both in droves.

And I don't just say this making assumptions based on nothing. I've seen it, I know people that are like this personally. Buy a "AAA" game that everyone's talking about and is hyped up, play it, beat it, trade it in and never touch it again. And that's ALL they buy, Madden, CoD, Halo, Battlefield, AC, GTA, Saints Row, Uncharted, Tomb Raider, (now apparently) Elder Scrolls, etc. etc. etc.

 

The problem with these games, and why some refer to them as "dudebro" games, is because that's who they're aimed at, and that is their largest audience. These college age, "GameStop kids", as I said. It's a sad and unfortunate state of the industry, and quite frankly not sustainable.



I can honestly give 2 fucks what people call it "dudebro" or whatever, I certainly enjoy CoD and Madden from time to time and am going continue to play and support both games.



Because they dont appear on Nintendo consoles?

I am dead serious. 90% of the criticism they get are usually from gamers who in some way or another are Nintendo fans. Anything that has a headshot in it is considered gruesome and savage, yet in the same time if one is ported, they start praising the game and its technical/mechanical superiority, when compared to other versions.

The remaining 10% comes from gaming elitists, who cannot enjoy a gaming experience until it includes 50 different gaming mechanics or a story so deep, that a giraffe could sink in it .

Dudebro games can be repetitive, loud and dumb, but its these projects that allow some more experimental ones to be created. They have 0 artistic value and they usually dont try to revolutionize the genre. They use a tried and true formula and that means that hundreds of developers and testers can keep their jobs.

Love them or hate them, they are the bread and butter of the console industry



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