By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Nintendo Dropped the Ball by Not Securing GTAV: No, they have bigger games coming, they do not need it!!!

 

Did they?

of course not, Nintendo d... 65 15.40%
 
yes, Nintendo should have bought Rockstar 78 18.48%
 
yes 67 15.88%
 
no 68 16.11%
 
yes, they should have got the rights 81 19.19%
 
maybe 41 9.72%
 
other ( post below) 21 4.98%
 
Total:421

What the fuck is up with these youtubers like Black Baron, DrTre81, and Shokio becoming relevant to the gaming media? It's kind of annoying when pretty much anyone on these forums would own them in an actual gaming discussion. It's almost as bad as when IGN gets that guy who doesn't know jack about comics to sit with Greg Miller and discuss comics!

Yes, I'm jealous. Why do you ask?



Around the Network
Munkeh111 said:
cbarroso09 said:
GTA V would be great for Nintendo. But Nintendo has superior games on sales. Not just that but on quantity also. Remember, one game will not do much as a complete library. Nintendo has been releasing their library since Pikmin 3.

No, nothing beats GTA V

Anyway, I don't think it would have had much impact. I doubt that it is going to bring in many new gamers who didn't want to play GTA IV and any gamer interested in GTA type games is going to be better served with a PS or Xbox.

I think it might be effective if it was the start of a long campaign from Nintendo to ensure the big 3rd party games also came to the Wii U without being comprimised. The problem is that I feel they are behind on online such that the 3rd parties miss out on all their extra revenue that they need/want.


Ni, nothing beats GTA.

 

GTA on WIi U wouldnt have much impact

 

Then it obviously isnt that important of a game.

 

"The problem is that I feel they are behind on online such that the 3rd parties miss out on all their extra revenue that they need/want."
What? That doesnt even make sense.  Either you are saying because the Eshop doesnt have as many options as PSN live, developers wont get sales because of less competition. OR You dont realise Wii U has DLC. OR you actually think they make money off of people playing online. Either one, it just doesnt make any sense at all. However I from your past post that it doesnt need to make sense as long as its negative about them but that is probably the silliest comment I have ever read and I frequent N4G dude.



RolStoppable said:
I don't know about that argument that GTA V would entice other developers to make more Wii U games. A few years ago I believed that the announcement of Dragon Quest X for the Wii was huge, because the expected presence of that game would guarantee a big userbase for JRPGs on the Wii and thus make other third parties want to take advantage of that situation. Never happened, not even remotely. Third parties didn't care one bit, even though at that time Dragon Quest was the biggest third party IP in the Japanese market.

So what kind of support would Nintendo gain by having both CoD and GTA on their home console? It probably wouldn't change anything, regardless of the sales. It's so easy to brush it off by saying: "It's CoD and GTA, they would sell on any system." - In the same way that Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition moving over 1m copies worldwide in 2007 didn't matter and Dragon Quest Swords selling 500k units in Japan alone in 2007 didn't increase the fortunes of the Wii in terms of third party support either.

Based on precedence, the entire argument of "you need to show third parties that there is an audience for their games" is moot. When there's proof that the audience is there, but the games don't come, then what exactly is going to attract the games?

The thing with DQ10 though is they botched the formula and made it into something nobody wanted.

Same thing with FF14 only they cared enough there to completely redo the game.

 

Wow@DQ Swords selling so much in Japan. For a spin off it sold almost as much as Yakuza..

I do agree though that the whole "Show 3rd parties there is audience is BS." Remember when Capcom said RE chronicles was a test for REAL RE support? 2 million sales later the only thing they did was another rail shooter.

 

I think Nintendo would be better off banning most devs from making games. Either that or they cant make a 3DS game if they dont support Wii U. I cant think of a single MP game that wasnt hindered in some way compared to the other platforms. EA has been so bad I stopped supporting them on all platforms for flat out lying about Wii U and what it is capable of to excuse their laziness



They should do whatever is necessary to secure the game on their console. It won't sell PS360 numbers, so Take Two will likely need some 'motivation' to do it and Nintendo should 'motivate' them. That, and a few other strategic 'motivations' for other third parties would go a long way.



I don't have data or anything to prove my argument but I'll make it based on myself (as a Nintendo fanboy) and other Nintendo gamers I've seen. I seriously don't think the majority of Nintendo gamers (less than 25% probably) would even be interested in the grand theft auto games, let alone want to buy it. A lot of Nintendo gamers like Nintendo because they can make creative games that are fun and don't shove boobs in your face or force you to kill somebody every 12.7 seconds. I understand that a lot of Microsoft and Sony gamers enjoy those two things and that is why, in my opinion, it is senseless to put GTA on Nintendo's console.



Around the Network
pezus said:
Nintendo have bigger games coming? That's news to me.




pezus said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
RolStoppable said:
I don't know about that argument that GTA V would entice other developers to make more Wii U games. A few years ago I believed that the announcement of Dragon Quest X for the Wii was huge, because the expected presence of that game would guarantee a big userbase for JRPGs on the Wii and thus make other third parties want to take advantage of that situation. Never happened, not even remotely. Third parties didn't care one bit, even though at that time Dragon Quest was the biggest third party IP in the Japanese market.

So what kind of support would Nintendo gain by having both CoD and GTA on their home console? It probably wouldn't change anything, regardless of the sales. It's so easy to brush it off by saying: "It's CoD and GTA, they would sell on any system." - In the same way that Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition moving over 1m copies worldwide in 2007 didn't matter and Dragon Quest Swords selling 500k units in Japan alone in 2007 didn't increase the fortunes of the Wii in terms of third party support either.

Based on precedence, the entire argument of "you need to show third parties that there is an audience for their games" is moot. When there's proof that the audience is there, but the games don't come, then what exactly is going to attract the games?

The thing with DQ10 though is they botched the formula and made it into something nobody wanted.

Same thing with FF14 only they cared enough there to completely redo the game.

 

Wow@DQ Swords selling so much in Japan. For a spin off it sold almost as much as Yakuza..

I do agree though that the whole "Show 3rd parties there is audience is BS." Remember when Capcom said RE chronicles was a test for REAL RE support? 2 million sales later the only thing they did was another rail shooter.

 

I think Nintendo would be better off banning most devs from making games. Either that or they cant make a 3DS game if they dont support Wii U. I cant think of a single MP game that wasnt hindered in some way compared to the other platforms. EA has been so bad I stopped supporting them on all platforms for flat out lying about Wii U and what it is capable of to excuse their laziness

That would truly become one of Nintendo's worst decisions.

"I cant think of a single MP game that wasnt hindered in some way compared to the other platforms."

Rayman? NFS: MW?

How so? 3rd parties only hurt themselves by shipping limited products.You know people only buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.../s mostly but looking what they offered its not hard to see why people pass on them.

Just look at your examples. 2 games in almost a year? Thats not the support EA(I know rayman is Ubisoft) promised Nintendo fans at E3. NFS came out what 6 months late? Rayman was delayed to port to other platforms. Both cases hurt sales. Probably less in the case of  Rayman but as for NFS why pay 60.00 when there is one for 20.00 a few shelves over.

 

 I got my copy from the EA store for 30.00 on launch day.



Didnt George Harrison say that one of the main reasons the gamecube failed is because it didnt have Gran Turismo or Grand Theft Auto? Seems history is about to repeat itself with both games.



pezus said:
Wright said:
pezus said:
Nintendo have bigger games coming? That's news to me.

 

I don't see anything. Maybe that's a hint. Anyway, if that is a pic of MK, surely you don't think it's bigger than GTAV? GTAV will outsell MK many times over. In the first month.


Damn, deeplinking. Okay, here we go again:

 



brendude13 said:
Wright said:


Imagine for a second that Nintendo manages to make GTA V a timed exclusive for one or two months.

 

Imagine.

It'll boost Wii U sales for sure. But it'll also piss millions of people off, and cost Nintendo hundreds of millions of dollars. I don't even think Rockstar would risk damaging the Grand Theft Auto brand.

Why would having the game on Wii U damage the GTA brand?



Nintendo and PC gamer