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killerzX said:

Mr Khan said:
Something really should be happening to this guy. I doubt he had lethal intent, but it's clear that he needs to learn that guns kill people,

i think he knows that, which is kinda why he carried it on him, as well as millions of other people.

and that if it hadn't been a black teenager he killed, he would have gotten in a lot of trouble.

not at all what a ridiculous and perposterous statement. if trayvon had been anything other thant black. this would be a total non issue and there wouldnt have even been a trial, let alone a guilty verdict. and best of all we wouldnt have the race baiters and their puffery about the case (al sharpton, NAACP, jesse jackson, msnbc, cnn, etc)



They carry it, but do they really *get* it? That I wonder...



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bobgamez said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
o_O.Q said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Mr Khan said:
Something really should be happening to this guy. I doubt he had lethal intent, but it's clear that he needs to learn that guns kill people, and that if it hadn't been a black teenager he killed, he would have gotten in a lot of trouble

Sorry, People should learn not to attack people in FL, you will lose your life, doesn’t matter if kid was only going to beat him up. He had the right and he used it. The fact is this only went this far because the kid was black. Nothing more. This should have never went to trial. The law is clear.

so i suppose you completely disregard the fact that zimmerman pursued the kid and initiated whatever conflict they had?

He followed someone he found to be suspicious in his neighborhood he was in his right to do so. In other words it's not illigal. The kid should have just kept on till his dads house, and not snuck up and attacked Zimmerman. 

poliec told him not to follow him, he followed him. If a man follows me in a car, i start to run, i hide, and if the guy gets out the car and walks towards me in a bush i act in self defense, its quite clear he messed up big time

Police didn't tell him to do anything, what they said was we don't need you to do that. So he stopped it was travon that circled around and attacked him, Slammed his head on the ground and beat him in the face. That's why he died. Travon should have kept going and that’s where he messed up big time. At least get the fact strait before you tire to argue. Two lives where ruined that day, Zimmerman will have to live with this the rest of his life. 



Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:

Mr Khan said:
Something really should be happening to this guy. I doubt he had lethal intent, but it's clear that he needs to learn that guns kill people,

i think he knows that, which is kinda why he carried it on him, as well as millions of other people.

and that if it hadn't been a black teenager he killed, he would have gotten in a lot of trouble.

not at all what a ridiculous and perposterous statement. if trayvon had been anything other thant black. this would be a total non issue and there wouldnt have even been a trial, let alone a guilty verdict. and best of all we wouldnt have the race baiters and their puffery about the case (al sharpton, NAACP, jesse jackson, msnbc, cnn, etc)



They carry it, but do they really *get* it? That I wonder...

well there wouldnt be much point of me (or him) carrying it, if it werent lethal.



o_O.Q said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Mr Khan said:
Something really should be happening to this guy. I doubt he had lethal intent, but it's clear that he needs to learn that guns kill people, and that if it hadn't been a black teenager he killed, he would have gotten in a lot of trouble

Sorry, People should learn not to attack people in FL, you will lose your life, doesn’t matter if kid was only going to beat him up. He had the right and he used it. The fact is this only went this far because the kid was black. Nothing more. This should have never went to trial. The law is clear.

so i suppose you completely disregard the fact that zimmerman pursued the kid and initiated whatever conflict they had?

I don't understand this argument. Yes, zimmerman followed and engaged trayvon, but from all said and done, he did not initiate the physical confrontation. Correct me if i am wrong, but Trayvon was found with no wounds other thant the bullet hole while zimmerman did have some gashes in the back of his head and i believe a busted nose. It all seems to indicate that Trayvon attacked first or that he overpowered GZ to the ground, with the latter not being the case in my honest opinion.

Was it so hard for Trayvon to have just kept walking or just walked away? No matter how angry or scared you are, the last thing to be done is to attack somebody out of fear/anger. Plus, Trayvon was much leaner, fit and taller than GZ, I really really doubt he was afraid of GZ to the point where he loses it. That being said, GZ should not have confronted Trayvon, at all. 



"Trick shot? The trick is NOT to get shot." - Lucian

That is some bull! Somebody died and nobody is guilty? That man smiled as the sentencing was read? Yeah, your life was on the line but so was someone elses, some time ago. He actually died without a court case. I hate this. I really hate this. It's like letting Boothe go free after he killed Lincoln. Just sad... what have we done?



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It all comes down to reasonable doubt and there was truly that. Does it make sense for Martin to decide to beat up/kill Zimmerman without bothering to set aside his candy and drink? Does it make sense for the screams to stop as soon as the trigger was pulled and not another whimpers be made?

Either way, the reasonable doubt was there. Just hope that YOU are never considered suspicious looking.



Mmmfishtacos said:
o_O.Q said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Mr Khan said:
Something really should be happening to this guy. I doubt he had lethal intent, but it's clear that he needs to learn that guns kill people, and that if it hadn't been a black teenager he killed, he would have gotten in a lot of trouble

Sorry, People should learn not to attack people in FL, you will lose your life, doesn’t matter if kid was only going to beat him up. He had the right and he used it. The fact is this only went this far because the kid was black. Nothing more. This should have never went to trial. The law is clear.

so i suppose you completely disregard the fact that zimmerman pursued the kid and initiated whatever conflict they had?

He followed someone he found to be suspicious in his neighborhood he was in his right to do so. In other words it's not illigal. The kid should have just kept on till his dads house, and not snuck up and attacked Zimmerman. 

As a member of the neighborhood watch, he should have known not to follow him as he was instructed to do so by 911. If the situation was reversed and Martin shot Zimmerman because he felt threatened that some strange guy was following home. I doubt you'd feel the same way. As someone that's been followed before, I can't say what I would have done in the same situation. Although going straight home wouldn't have been my first thought, I don't want to lead a potential threat to my place of residence.



Mmmfishtacos said:
Mr Khan said:
Something really should be happening to this guy. I doubt he had lethal intent, but it's clear that he needs to learn that guns kill people, and that if it hadn't been a black teenager he killed, he would have gotten in a lot of trouble

Sorry, People should learn not to attack people in FL, you will lose your life, doesn’t matter if kid was only going to beat him up. He had the right and he used it. The fact is this only went this far because the kid was black. Nothing more. This should have never went to trial. The law is clear.


All we have is Zimmerman's word. NO ONE saw who actually started the fight.



No one should be celebrating this case nor damning Zimmerman either. This is a tragedy, but this should force people to access the current way in which certain matters are paid attention to, especially in Florida. There are grieving parents out there and some assholes have the audacity to only think about themselves and their own personal feelings in either side of the coin, when this should be a case that affects everyone in changing the way the future plays out for everyone.



Metallicube said:

So all you have to do to get away with murdering some innocent kid in a hoodie is say you "feel threatened" by him?

This man should have listened to the cop who told him NOT TO FOLLOW the kid, and none of this would have happened in the first place. It isn't exactly self defense when YOU are the one provoking and following your victim...

This kid didn't even have a gun on him. The man did. That should tell you enough right there. How exactly is the man with the gun the one to feel "threatened"?

Man, our justice system is completely fucked...

And this is the problem with our society.  People who don't even look at the facts of the case and just jump to conclusions.  Which, I admit, is much easier to happen when the media is spoon feeding people BS.

Trayvon was far from innocent.  Zimmerman lost him for several minutes.  Plenty of time for Trayvon to get to his dad's house and be relaxing.  Instead, he decided to stick around and (most likely) confront this "crazy ass cracker."  And kid?  Really?  He was an atheletic, 6 ft (Zimmerman was 5'7") 17 yr old YOUNG MAN.  Not the little 12 yr old boy the media tried to portray him as.

Zimmerman was NEVER told by a cop to not follow Trayvon.  He was told by a DISPATCHER that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon.  That's not an order.  And he has no legal obligation to follow it.  And, in fact, he did stop following him at that point.  Hence, the wind dying down and Zimmerman catching his breath on the 911 call.

It also doesn't matter WHO owned the gun, as either man could have got ahold of it and used it.  Zimmerman even stated he believed Trayvon was going for his gun, which is why he felt he had to get to it, first.  Of course, Zimmerman may have only imagined this.  But, who could blame him if he did, he was getting his head slammed against the sidewalk at the time.

In the end, our justice system prevailed over low information "armchair legal experts" and emotion.