So porn sites, sites meant for you to steal games ad sites that offer toolsthat may be used to steal games.

The list is longer. But that's OK, a forum need rules.

Not the real reason. brett and GAF had a bad break up.

Because NeoGaf doesn't make up sales data that gets used as proof for fanboy arguments.

Well that was an interesting turn of events for my question,lol.

You would think that if anything they would at least appreciate the fact that someone is trying to provide estimated numbers for console sales at no cost and taking the time to do so, even if they are not always accurate (which considering this is not a multimillion dollar company with extensive research teams.....)

They really haven't been, and it seems to have gotten worse recently.  For the month of February in the USA, VGC recorded 550k hardware sales compared to NPD's ~1067k.  NPD had 4 systems more than 100% higher than VGC, and the rest were 50-76% higher.  January was better in terms of total hardware, but that was because it was a mix of over and undertracking.  Not a single system was within 10% of NPD numbers.  Software has also had huge discrepencies.  Sometimes more than double NPD numbers.

In the UK VGC still has the Wii U 21% higher than the figure calculated from Nintendo's market share chart for 2012.  The DS numbers were also higher than their shipments for weeks after Nintendo's numbers came out, and even now is only 100k below shipments for the end of 2012.  Now this might make sense if Nintendo is basically discontinuing the DS outside the US seeing as they only shipped 20k outside of NA in the last quarter of 2012.  However, VGC has recorded 123k DS sales outside of the USA so far this year.  That isn't really consistent with such a small shipped/sold gap at the end of 2012.  Now maybe later this month Nintendo will show that they shipped ~150k to Others, but that seems unlikely since they only shipped 170k in the same quarter last year, and sales are around a third of what they were last year.

No real issues with Japan since we usually get MC and Famitsu before VGC numbers.

It makes one reluctant to even want to discuss numbers that might be double or half a few months down the line.  That gets back to the thread's topic of VGC being banned on neogaf.  Let's say someone makes a thread saying DmC sold 365k in the US in January.  Then the NPD numbers come out and it only sold 187k.  How many times does a similar situation need to happen before they disallow such threads?

I hope ethomax realizes that no one on GAF does any actual work getting numbers. They have a few people in the know leak themselves or find out leaks. That is all. There are no GAF numbers.

You realize that 90% of the threads on VGC are stolen directly from GAF?

As in word for word....hell even posts are stolen from GAF directly with no quotation or credit giving.

Its gotten out of hand to be honest.

Anyways, i don't get why VGC has a bad rep over there..its obviously something they overreacted to, but that doesn't really say anything about their community as a whole. From what ive seen over there, the gaming discussion is way ahead of the discussion happening on this site (which is probably why all the "stealing" is going on).

Because no one from GAF has wanted to join VGC to mention how "awesome" they are. We only get original members saying how awesome GAF is... then they leave for it.

Also because VGC isn't North Korea, compared to GAF.

Because we're not petty and stupid.

Conversation here seems a little too "incestuous" at times that the same topics continue re-emerging, re-evolving, rebirthing all over the place (i.e Doom Threads, OT threads, etc). VGC doesn't seem a whole lot active as other forums I've been to which is what I think is part of the reason we don't have a lot of diverse discussion... At least to me that's a significant part of it.

When I open Hot Topics and 9/10 are the same topic by the same few people, you've got a problem for keeping people interacting/involving in the community. If that is really where all our people are going, then maybe that explains that also... just some ideas and thoughts.