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Do you still trust MS enough to get their Next Console?

Yes 265 34.06%
 
No 512 65.81%
 
Total:777
NightDragon83 said:
kain_kusanagi said:

Has anyone else tried Reese's Puffs cereal? It's like candy. I don't even poor milk on it, I just eat them as a snack dry. I'm not kidding it's freaking candy.

Anyone else have a good cereal suggestion?

I had some Raisin Bran Crunch for the first time a few weeks ago, and it was surprisingly good.  Didn't taste like cardboard the way plain old Raisin Bran does.

Also a huge fan of Trix, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, and Fruity Pebbles.

I don't care for Raisin Bran either so I mix my own. I buy bran flakes and mix in raisins. It's much better because it doesn't have all that extra sugar they coat the raisins with.

What's the "Crunch" in Raisin Bran Crunch?



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kain_kusanagi said:

Has anyone else tried Reese's Puffs cereal? It's like candy. I don't even poor milk on it, I just eat them as a snack dry. I'm not kidding it's freaking candy.

Anyone else have a good cereal suggestion?


I'm not a big cereal eater but I had a cereal that tasted like Big Red (red cream soda) a couple of month ago that was very interesting.  I had Reese's Puffs cereal a couple of times I liked it a lot also.



kain_kusanagi said:
NightDragon83 said:
kain_kusanagi said:

Has anyone else tried Reese's Puffs cereal? It's like candy. I don't even poor milk on it, I just eat them as a snack dry. I'm not kidding it's freaking candy.

Anyone else have a good cereal suggestion?

I had some Raisin Bran Crunch for the first time a few weeks ago, and it was surprisingly good.  Didn't taste like cardboard the way plain old Raisin Bran does.

Also a huge fan of Trix, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, and Fruity Pebbles.

I don't care for Raisin Bran either so I mix my own. I buy bran flakes and mix in raisins. It's much better because it doesn't have all that extra sugar they coat the raisins with.

What's the "Crunch" in Raisin Bran Crunch?

It's got like nuts and honey oat clusters that give it more flavor and better texture.  It's kinda like Honey Bunches of Oats but with Raisins.

I like mixing in berries with Special K once in awhile too.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Oh I pretty much agree with OP, a little colorful and contestable on certain supporting information but pretty much. If Sony didn't mess up with the Cell MS wouldn't be so well set this gen. MS's policies are oppressive, their business approach is dependent on popularity, PS3 would have taken all support from it if things didn't go the way they did.

PS4 might, and I hope, change things. If the dev reaction is anything to go by, it will. MS fed off Sony's mistakes and cemented a consumer culture that felt attached and involved in their product. Maybe it's just most people don't care or just don't know about the things that I seem to care about with this industry, just siding with what seems to be the games to have and what their friends have. Hopefully, PS becomes that console. If so, MS won't be able to maintain their business plan.

EDIT: MS seemed to have a pretty solid stragelhold on the US hardcore gamer market this gen. Competition seemed not to touch them in the minds of many gamers in that region. It fed into the console war.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

he has a point, Microsoft have left a bad impression amongst many gamers, yes they can fix this, i just don't think they will



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Xbox 720 might do PS2 numbers, who knows. Peoples preferences might change and Xbox live subscription could become a norm like cell phone bills and rent.



kain_kusanagi said:

Has anyone else tried Reese's Puffs cereal? It's like candy. I don't even poor milk on it, I just eat them as a snack dry. I'm not kidding it's freaking candy.

Anyone else have a good cereal suggestion?


lol I personally prefer oatmeal haha  I did like Reese Puffs a lot when i was younger though.  It was  my favorite :)  And i use to eat it plain as well lol




       

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forevercloud3000 said:

Microsoft did a great job lulling many a gamer in with what they originally offered. Yet, for the last 7 Years I have watched them pull one slick stunt after the next, and generally harm the sanctity of the industry multiple times over.

 

  • When the Original Xbox came out, I was interested. Games like Fable and Jade Empire almost had me. Yet I already had a PS2, wth FF and a hefty load of games that were exclusive to it. I decided I would wait to get the Xbox after it became much cheaper. When the New consoles were finally released I though this was my chance to snag one for a bargain......then it happened. MS officially cut off Xbox shortly after 360's release, this was in complete contrast to how the PS2 still thrived for several years, just like the PS1 did. The way it was immediately discontinued, most ofthe games were field destroyed, just erased....didn't sit well at all with me. I still feel like this is a mantra MS might still hold. More on that later....
  • RROD. MS ignored the many warnings they got from their tech experts to delay the 360's launch so they could figure out a more viable heat syncing solution. MS big wigs could have cared less, because beating Sony to the punch was truly all that mattered. A electronic device with over 40% failure rate that wasn't immediately pulled from market is unheard of. MS's solution to this was to give you a 3 yr warrenty(from LAUNCH and not buy date) where they would fix your console......just so it would break again a month later. In MS's defense, many bring up the PS2's higher than normal failure rate....yet that was small time in comparison really. It was only a rate of like 8%. While working at Gamestop, I watched people buy console after console simply because they kept breaking. When the main reason you chose one console over the next was due to it's low price yet the cost of replacing it comes out to way more.............priceless.
  • Timed Exclusivity: A ridiculous  trade off from real exclusivity if you ask me. I always felt full exclusive games encouraged the best kind of  competition. Mario's success would spur Crash, GT would ignite PGR/Forza, etc, etc. The fact that there are less exclusives these days means there is less reason to buy any particular console(which is what MS wanted) but it also means developers don't have to try nearly as hard to court a fanbase.....and most often, Multiplats feel like a poor man's exclusive Version.
  • Total Abandonment of the Hardcore Gamer in the last 3 years. MS has shown time and time again, that their fanbase is just a name and number. They are only as valuable as how much money they are bringing them. Now this isn't news to us about any business. Sony and Nintendo also want your hard earned dollar. Yet MS completely abandoned the groups that gave them their early success as they no longer needed to appeal to them, they already had you (like some douche college stud who sleeps around for the conquest and nothing more). Once they felt they had the "Hardcore Vote" already, the Hardcore centric games became scarce, and the new Casual push began. This is what 360 fans put up with out of complacency for the last 3 years. MS felt as long as they give their fans 2 key franchises a year(an alternation between Forza,Gears, Halo) that their fanbase would stay TAMED.
  • Charging for what everyone else give for free. We already pay a premium for the internet, why are you paying for a glorified "Membership" that gives you what you rightfully should of had for free? News Flash people, there is very little XboxLive does that PS3 doesn't, contrary to popular beleif. The only true feature of note is XGC.....an overhyped feature from those who are trying to justify that annual fee. Well come PS4 time, you will no longer have that excuse. Vita already has XGC, PS4 will allow it across multiple devices. PS+ is already garnering  far more appeal of late, with its constant sales, free game givaways, auto updates, exclusive betas/demos......on the regular! PS+ isn't required to get basic funtion out of your device, yet people are flocking to it for its REAL value it offers up to you.
  • Cheap scating to APPEAR cheaper. This baffled me when this gen started. Sure, the PS3 was 600 big ones, but in actuality the 360 was just around, if not more. Think about it. Original 360's were coming with no HDMI port, needed batteries for controllers(expensive rechargeable pack sold seperately), no Wifi Built in (When even the damn Wii did), and of course required a Live Sub to play online. Oh but it came with a headset tho....... The system was built around you buying what appears to be a real bargain in comparison to the competition, then get you on the 50million peripherals that will at some point become a necessity.
Someone Please explain to me, after knowing all this, how could MS's efforts be more appealing than Sony or Nintendo's at this point?

 

You completely nailed it besides your last point. If you want to back up Microsoft being cheap just point out the 4GB xbox 360 which is a rip off and almost criminal to release. I guess it's not so bad if you're like a PS3 gamer who just wants Halo and Gears but it's still messed up. Just like the 40GB PS3 was. Only a fanboy would call your points wrong.

Microsoft has backed themselves into a corner. I think they are going to lose a lot of marketshare next gen unless a miracle happens and they get their shit together. It's going to take a TON of work to fix all their screw ups.



JayWood2010 said:

learn that people have preferences and opinions and stop shoving yours down others throats. Goodnight

Just because someone's opinion differs from your own doesn't mean they're shoving the opinion down your throat. Besides. A lot of the statements forevercloud3000 made are fact, not opinion. Although there are also opinions in that post as well.

I bought a PS3 at FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS, but it's a fact that any 360 owner who has used Live since launch, whether it was on sale or regularly priced, has paid more than I did at this point in time.

The amount of 360 system failures is a fact. My 360 died once, I got it replaced, then sold it and all my games. I have one friend who sent his 360 back five times and I wasn't going to go through the hassle. There are some people who haven't had one issue with their original model 360. You people are lucky.

That said, I'll eventually get a 360 Slim for some games I want to play on it if the Next Box doesn't have bc. If the Next Box has backwards compatibility, I'm going to just hold onto the games I want to play for quite some time and get the system when it's around $200.