It's quite possible that Satan was a scapegoat. In fact, a lot of what the bible says about not listening to the devil and that he is the father of lies sounds suspiciously like poisoning the well. Truth be told, god and/or his agents have gone so far in prejudicing the jury that any fair trial would likely need to be moved to another jurisdiction or perhaps thrown out entirely. Can you imagine how hard it would be to find an impartial jury to hear Satan's alleged crimes?

Not that god is every likely to allow a fair trial. He would only stand to lose if Satan was allowed to speak in his own defense. No, that would never happen, which is why Hell is actually god's version of Guantanamo Bay.

Really, I'm not even sure what the devil did that was so horrible. Overthrowing dictators is something we usually celebrate. Maybe it was time for a changing of the guard? Maybe Satan was Denzel Washington to god's Gene Hackman and had no choice but to go Crimson Tide on his ass.

The sad thing is that we'll probably never know, not as long as god has the media in his pocket.

Jesus is much more of a socialist than Satan. What bit about satan is even any bit socialist?

You should keep an open mind to everything. Don't look at any side as the wrong side. Also we have been brainwashed into being mad at this red fire breathing "devil". His name is Lucifer. also hell is earth and The Atlanteans were stuck here and were trying to get out. The God who we think of when talking about the bible was a rebel aswell. They were being pursued by the the Others so they got chased across the galaxy to this solar system. They then reached the water planet Tiamat and set up fake bases their. the others eventually scouted and found them then they destroyed Tiamat. So then when the rebels got to Earth they had to hide within the earth because the explosion of Tiamat shifted the solar system. So the others got to earth but they were supposedly pressed for time and had to immediately leave so then they set up a barrier around earth so that the rebels could NEVER leave the planet until the the others came back. So the rebels eventually came out of the underground bases after The Tiamat destruction settled. There were only like 200 rebels so they needed more beings to help build this new world so that they could eventually get off of this planet before the others came back. They created beings that were almost up to par with them but then the created beings eventually reveled against their fathers or so to speak.

hell is earth and the rebels were trying to do anything they could to get off this planet 

Edit: fucking auto correct..

also please take everything I just said with a grain of salt because I'm still searching

There are a few fatal issues with your post.

1. In Christianity, Satan is not a person, but rather the personification of temptation whose purpose is to tempt humanity to the path of idolitry. In earlier Jewish texts, Satan was the adversary of humanity, a prosecuter of humanity before God.

In most religious faiths, Christianity, Daoism, Buddhism, etc... They focus on a way to enlightenment. It is presented differently in different cultures, but is ultimately the same philosophy. Enlightenment is reached through a total rejection of idolitry (Or a devotion to earlthy objects). The force which tempts idolitry in Christian philosophy, as I mentioned above, is called Satan. Since The Way opposes idolitry, there is a logical opposition to temptation to idolitry. So Christianity opposes Satan for this reason.

2. The bible wasn't written by God, it was compiled by Christians in the 3rd through 5th centuries who compiled various manuscripts written by mystics who followed the way; 21 of the books in this compilation were canonized as religious scripture during the reign of Constantine in the 4th century, with six more additions later. There is also no reason you should attribute any of the writings to God since none of these manuscripts are in any way said to be written by God. Some of them are accounts of the life of Jesus (Gospels attributed to John, Luke, Mark, and Matthew), accounts of the doings of the Apostles (Acts, attributed to Luke), letters written to discuss the way (Pauline letters, obviously attributed to Paul), and metaphorical works meant for the purpose of divination (Revelation, attributed to John). On top of these books which were canonized, there were hundreds of others which were not.

3. In case you didn't gather it from point 2, the Bible isn't a single book. Rather, it's a collection of books from multiple traditions gathered between the time of Marcion of Sinope and the 5th century AD. Satan factors into many of these traditions, most prominently into Revelation.

4. The reason why "Satan" doesn't appear in other religions is because of etymology rooted in the Hebrew language, and philosophy rooted in Christian culture. Other religions have other representations rooted in other cultures, and other names rooted in other etymologies. For example, Buddhist tradition has Mara who is the Buddhist equivalent of Satan.

Because socialism (at least post-Marx incarnations of socialism) embrace the idea of progress for the sake of progress, which would also be the "unbiased" interpretation of Satan, who aspires for betterment because betterment is part of natural evolution, and the destruction that might come with said betterment (say, the destruction of Communist Revolution) is a mere inevitable by-product.

Marxism-Leninism has no pity for those who suffer in the name of human betterment, so long as they *are* suffering in the name of betterment. While Objectivism posits that ambition and excellence are the only goals to which we should subscribe.

Edit: The Greek mythic figure of Prometheus is what i'm trying to drive at. He selflessly brought fire to mankind for the betterment of man, but the Gods felt that to be evil, because it shook mankind out of the "Golden Age" of Rousseau-esque pre-civilizational utopia.

We are all children of Lucifer. The bringer of Light.

But where in the definition of socialism is that? The definitions of socialism has to do with working against economic and social differences among people, putting the best of the collective before the individual, trusting the state's ability to solve problems, etc. That's what it's about at its core.

My point is, socialism is a very wide term, which makes me still don't quite get what you mean with the progress for sake of progress line.

I'll admit to being over-broad. What i rather meant was pitilessness for the sake of betterment, which is a trait of Marxism-Leninism.

the good/evil, heaven and hell, God vs Satan concept always seemed a tad ....broken to me. When you look at the story of Lucifer, something is surely missing. Why would someone with close to (even equal to?) god's inteligence want to be "evil" for no other reason but? Rule of any good super villain, and Satan being the biggest of all, is that a good one does not think him/itself inherently evil and has a perceived purpose for their actions.

Lucifer was Satan's name as an Angel. He was known to be the most beautiful and powerful of all of them. He was said to be God's favorite and quite possibly the prototype for Jesus. Lucifer is the only angel with inherent free will supposedly, or at least was aware of his sense of being unlike the others. He supposedly became furious with God once Man was created with free will to do as they please....

This is where it gets strange for me. I kind of.....agree with where Lucifer is coming from at this point. Think about it. Would you rather spend every waking moment of your life devoted to pampering an omnipotent being or be able to choose your fate as you see fit? The whole idea that man is suppose to choose a life of forever worshiping God seems like a very vain human characteristic for a God to force upon man in the first place. What does an all powerful god truly need in human offerings and ritual chanting for anything other than inflating its ego?

This whole story feels fairly similar to real life Parent and Child conflicts. There are actually people in the world who have children simply as cheap labor or slaves if you will. They have no other desire for them except to fullfill that need. So when that child grows up, becomes aware that there is more to life than serving their parents, they long to go out and find something of their own. The Parent, who is now furious that something they created has the nerve to rebel against them, now disowns the child in a fit of rage.

Just because someone gives you life....do you owe it your total allegiance? Not to say you do not respect where you came from, just that is it necessary for your will to be forever second to theirs due to this reality.

Another facet of the story that really rubs me the wrong way is that after casting Lucifer from heaven, God sends him to the bowels of hell. Lucifer becomes Satan, and Hell is is new domicile. He becomes totally embittered and resentful to mankind and God alike and decides to fuck with their existence. What really gets me is that why would God, who supposedly cares for mankind, allow an evil force to gamble with their lives? What, to prove that man would chose Good over Evil? So the countless lives of lost souls means nothing as long as the majority still sides with God......... Egotistical does not begin to describe this manner of thinking. Not to mention down right cruel. Even though God has the power to wipe evil from existence....he chooses not to. Why? Cuz it is more amusing that way.

Not a god I will ever believe in or willingly worship.

^ Lucifel actually, as all angels end on "el", "er" already is for fallen angels