Sorry misread, thought you said every patch.

Realistically, though such a standard might prevent developers from trying to make ambitious games.

Heck even Grand Theft Auto 4, which had a ridiculously huge budget, and 4 years of development time had glitches that broke the campaign if you did certain quests in an order your "not suppose to". Developers will play it very safe, and even more so than currently games will just be 5 hour heavily scripted campaigns. It truely is impossible to test every possible.

Don't get me wrong. Bethesda clearly ships out products they know are filled with bugs. But they are also the only developer at the moment trying to make such ambitious titles. The only terminology I can think of is that is reasonable is that if there is a glitch that will eventually become present no matter how you play the game, then you face the consequences. Something that clearly was caught by the testers but ignored. Skyrim for the ps3 would have fit that description. 

Seems pretty extreme to me, especially on dishonored since bethesda didnt make it... If they make a high quality game that runs way better on sony's platform than any others you still wouldnt get it?  

People that say stuff like that are usually just Sony fans pissed that WRPGs have become much more popular this gen while JRPGs have taken a back seat on consoles thanks to companies like Bethesda leading the charge with the Fallout and Elder Scrolls series.

I remember oblivion on 360, warping on the map and getting freezes that forced the console to be reset.
Fallout 3 leaving vault 101 for the first time and crashing. New Vegas had heaps of fails such as using vats made it freeze. I made the big mistake and bought skyrim on ps3 and quit when a quest with missing content, then I heard about how its broken, I havnt played it since. They release games broken and rely on us to test them.
their fans defend them to the end so they will always sell, ive always been pretty loyal though Im at my end with them.

i have not had any major grips on the PC what is it im supposed to be mad at? the timed exclusive? really thats just a fact of life in this day and age. on the PC i have high res textures and modding to my hearts desire! the only camp that may be upset is the PS3 came but as stated in the other thread thats more a technical limitation of the systemhttp://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=148754&page=1#

You and I must have gotten different builds of Fallout New Vegas.  I can't even exit the game without it freezing, I have to use ctrl+alt+del every single time.  Normally it crashes to desktop at least once while I'm playing it, though often more than that.  The game has so many bugs that it's kind of a running joke to post the most craziest ones.  You might be the first person I've ever heard of to not have problems.  PC players have LOTS of reasons to be annoyed.  I really, really do not understand anyone who feels the need to defend Bethesda.

Every Bethesda game that I've played on the PS3 was crap. Sony needs to make a system that is easier to develop for so developers can get the best out of it, plain and simple.

Do you have the 4gbnv?

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/35262

There's still some issues but it really shouldn't crash, or be more than the typical bethesda game, gta4, dark soul's etc.

The thing that bothered me the most is the clipping/horrible animations skeletons etc that are worse than most ps2 games. And using like 5 voice actors for every character.

I had issues with a beta AMD driver this year (cant for the life of me remember which one but it also messed with the hud making it all off kilter and the wrong color) but for hard crashes i cant say it does not happen, but for sykrim (cant really say about fallout new vegas) it has been far and few between.

and i love any company that lets you mod the crap out of a game, while i dont mod until i beat it legit it adds so much to them, i do wish it was a bit more open, but outside of mine craft i think in the last year ive put the most time into skyrim and have thoroughly enjoyed the game.

if im going to get on to anyonr for a buggy PC game i have played it would be who ever made sleeping dogs, that game gave me fits at first till i reinstalled it and all my drivers about 3 times.... still a fun game... ended to short though needs more to do in the city could have been just as good as just cause 2 another game i have sunk countless hours into

I have a question. When it comes to Bethesda games this gen, is X360 always the better choice? Can sb. tell me which console is better for which game? Cause I believe I remember that Oblivion was better on PS3, is that true? Or did they patch this game?
Unfortunately, since my PC burned to ashes I have no gaming PC and I'm just left with consoles. So could someone fill this list and maybe add a note if the supreme version is really a lot better, or just slightly:

Oblivion -
Fallout -
Fallout New Vegas -
Skyrim - X360 (I know that one...)

Thanks in advance!