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mantlepiecek said:

That is not true. They probably overestimated their profit through blu-ray because that is the only reason PS3 has made so much of a loss on the Hardware. Everything else was minor. They knew what they were getting into when they made blu-ray a standard for the PS3. I doubt they expected the PS3 itself to pay for it.


Granted, if Sony and Toshiba had worked together rather than fight each other over Blu-Ray vs HD DVD, Sony would have likely had a drive faster, I think the Cell processor was their biggest loss.  Toshiba was to market first with the HD DVD, where as the PS3 had to wait, for among other things, the Blu-Ray drive.  Had they gone with a different solution they likely would have spent less on R&D, gotten the PS3 out to market faster, had better development tools, been able to afford to spend a little more on a better GPU, and include software emulated backward compatibility for the PS2.

Instead they spent a long time developing the Cell, then exploring the use of the Cell as a GPU and when that failed resorting to an off-the-shelf GPU, after which they then gave the console to the software folks to work on and develop the tools necessary to make games.



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MonstaMack said:
My guess is people are buying more cheap/crappy TVs. Sony = Quality when it comes to TVs, that's what I tell everyone and It's sad when people go for the cheapest TV only to face problems in the long run.

My Vizio is going on 2-years now and I have had no issues at all. Makes me glad I saved $300+ by not going with a similar sized SONY.

Their problem is that they charge way too much for a comparable product.



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Well, this coming FY is their last chance if they aren't profitable and by a lot not like 100 million, something substantial like 2.5 Billion+ then they will be gone or will become a media only company within the next 10 years. Have Samsung or LG buy playstation brand but keep developers.



I've said this since 1955 that Sony lost their mind with TR-55 and will go down... no one believed me.

I am GOD!!!



Euphoria14 said:
MonstaMack said:
My guess is people are buying more cheap/crappy TVs. Sony = Quality when it comes to TVs, that's what I tell everyone and It's sad when people go for the cheapest TV only to face problems in the long run.

My Vizio is going on 2-years now and I have had no issues at all. Makes me glad I saved $300+ by not going with a similar sized SONY.

Their problem is that they charge way too much for a comparable product.


Well I guess I was wrong about Sony TVS based on quote bubbles.

 

I had no luck with one of my VIzios. My 32 Inch VIzio plasma that I used about 30+ hours aweek died just around 4 years of use, then again that might be good considering how much I used it and TVs these days. I have a 32 Inch LED Vizio Plasma and a small one in the bedroom for the once every two weeks usuage.



It's just that simple.

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Damn, whole Japanese hi-tech industry is suffering right now. Rise of South Korea? I don't like it...
I hope they all will recover sometime. Especially Sony, I love this company, but certainly not in that shape and mood it has today...




 

MonstaMack said:
Euphoria14 said:
MonstaMack said:
My guess is people are buying more cheap/crappy TVs. Sony = Quality when it comes to TVs, that's what I tell everyone and It's sad when people go for the cheapest TV only to face problems in the long run.

My Vizio is going on 2-years now and I have had no issues at all. Makes me glad I saved $300+ by not going with a similar sized SONY.

Their problem is that they charge way too much for a comparable product.


Well I guess I was wrong about Sony TVS based on quote bubbles.

 

I had no luck with one of my VIzios. My 32 Inch VIzio plasma that I used about 30+ hours aweek died just around 4 years of use, then again that might be good considering how much I used it and TVs these days. I have a 32 Inch LED Vizio Plasma and a small one in the bedroom for the once every two weeks usuage.


Who knows how "good" anything is considered these days.

Nowadays it seems like things universally cost more but are built like shit and have much shorter life spans.



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mantlepiecek said:
Jereel Hunter said:
mantlepiecek said:
Argh_College said:
I´ve said this since 2006 that Sony lost their mind with Ps3 and will go down... no one believed me.

im god

PS3 is hardly Sony's issue. In fact it's probably one of the better parts of Sony.

It is... currently. But over the course of the entire generation, it will still have likely lost Sony a couple Billion dollars. It's initial losses are unrecoverable. And therein lies the problem with Sony - they have a console that will pass 75M lifetime sales, probably rack up almost a billion game sales, and still end in the red over the course of the generation. They're strategy relied on them having another cycle of PS2 level domination - nothing less could bring them a profit.

That is not true. They probably overestimated their profit through blu-ray because that is the only reason PS3 has made so much of a loss on the Hardware. Everything else was minor. They knew what they were getting into when they made blu-ray a standard for the PS3. I doubt they expected the PS3 itself to pay for it

That is absolutely true - it's a fact.

http://www.1up.com/news/sony-lost-ps3-ps2

There are numerous articles on it. The PS3's initial losses were more than the profits of the entire PS2 generation. And PS3 is obviously less profitable than the PS2 was. They knew what they were getting into, they just didn't realize that people wouldn't be willing to shell out $600 for their system.



Sony should just focus on making consoles, games and films.



TVs are a money sink but this years losses in the division are more to do with earthquakes and tsunamis destroying entire factories, which seems easily forgot as people clamor to blame Sony for miss management. They also launched a brand new console which doesn't come cheap.

Remember the division did post a profit last year, the unfortunate luck of a natural disaster as soon as they started to turn things around was a kick in the teeth they could of done without.