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BasilZero said:
JGarret said:
Metallicube said:

It's good that Nintendo acknowledges the importance of a strong 1st party lineup, but the fact is, even if Nintendo busts their ass and goes all out, releasing tons of great 1st party games,  there are still going to be lull periods where the development teams are stretched too thin, busy on 3DS software, tied up with bigger projects, etc. This is when third parties NEED to step in. If they don't, we're simply going to be looking at another N64, Gamecube, and (to an extent), Wii library where there are brief periods of plentiful quality games dispersed amongst long periods of droughts. Nintendo doesn't have the sheer numbers or manpower that Sony's studio has, and unless they intend to seriously upgrade, third parties are key to fill in the gaps.

This is on Nintendo to push for their support. I don't care how much third parties hate you, or how much they hated Wii, or their fear of their titles getting crushed by Nintendo games. You do EVERYTHING in your power to get more plentiful, and more importantly, more QUALITY third party games. Buy studios, offer money, push advertising, work closely with studios, make development as easy as possible on your platform. Hell, buy them a steak and lobster dinner if that's what it takes. Wii U NEEDS stronger third party support, or I fear the Wii sales numbers will be the absolute ceiling for Wii U success, and more likely than not, an unreachable goal.

While Wii at least got the quantity of third party games unlike the N64 and Gamecube, it was lacking in the quality. Wii U will need both in order to have the surge of success Wii had, along with the greater longevity of the HD consoles.


In short, we´re all still waiting for "the next SNES" :)

When the Wii started its sales domination back in 2007/2008, for a moment I thought there was a good chance it´d become 'the next SNES'...it never happened, we all know.

The DS is the closest thing to a 'SNES 2', though I´d rather have it as a home console since I don´t like handhelds.


+1!

I'm still waiting for the next SNES, the next nintendo system that will have alot of third party support! Hopefully the Wii-U will be that!

Why did people assume that Wii was going to be the next SNES??? The system was not powerful enough to run any of the games that the 3rd parties were making for the HDs, so common sense should dictate that Wii was going to miss out on some games. or at least get different versions. Thats what I thought anyway.  Wii U has a much better chance of becoming SNES 2, but even then i dont think that will happen. SNES did have alot of 3rd party exclusive software, which I doubt Wii U or anyone will get. Nope multiplatform is where this is heading. Unless Ninty is going to do some serious moneyhatting. 



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oniyide said:
BasilZero said:
JGarret said:
Metallicube said:

It's good that Nintendo acknowledges the importance of a strong 1st party lineup, but the fact is, even if Nintendo busts their ass and goes all out, releasing tons of great 1st party games,  there are still going to be lull periods where the development teams are stretched too thin, busy on 3DS software, tied up with bigger projects, etc. This is when third parties NEED to step in. If they don't, we're simply going to be looking at another N64, Gamecube, and (to an extent), Wii library where there are brief periods of plentiful quality games dispersed amongst long periods of droughts. Nintendo doesn't have the sheer numbers or manpower that Sony's studio has, and unless they intend to seriously upgrade, third parties are key to fill in the gaps.

This is on Nintendo to push for their support. I don't care how much third parties hate you, or how much they hated Wii, or their fear of their titles getting crushed by Nintendo games. You do EVERYTHING in your power to get more plentiful, and more importantly, more QUALITY third party games. Buy studios, offer money, push advertising, work closely with studios, make development as easy as possible on your platform. Hell, buy them a steak and lobster dinner if that's what it takes. Wii U NEEDS stronger third party support, or I fear the Wii sales numbers will be the absolute ceiling for Wii U success, and more likely than not, an unreachable goal.

While Wii at least got the quantity of third party games unlike the N64 and Gamecube, it was lacking in the quality. Wii U will need both in order to have the surge of success Wii had, along with the greater longevity of the HD consoles.


In short, we´re all still waiting for "the next SNES" :)

When the Wii started its sales domination back in 2007/2008, for a moment I thought there was a good chance it´d become 'the next SNES'...it never happened, we all know.

The DS is the closest thing to a 'SNES 2', though I´d rather have it as a home console since I don´t like handhelds.


+1!

I'm still waiting for the next SNES, the next nintendo system that will have alot of third party support! Hopefully the Wii-U will be that!

Why did people assume that Wii was going to be the next SNES??? The system was not powerful enough to run any of the games that the 3rd parties were making for the HDs, so common sense should dictate that Wii was going to miss out on some games. or at least get different versions. Thats what I thought anyway.  Wii U has a much better chance of becoming SNES 2, but even then i dont think that will happen. SNES did have alot of 3rd party exclusive software, which I doubt Wii U or anyone will get. Nope multiplatform is where this is heading. Unless Ninty is going to do some serious moneyhatting. 

Multiplatform is fine, doesnt need to be complete exclusives. I just hope Wii-U will have as much third party support as the Sony/MS consoles.



    

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BasilZero said:
oniyide said:
BasilZero said:
JGarret said:
Metallicube said:

It's good that Nintendo acknowledges the importance of a strong 1st party lineup, but the fact is, even if Nintendo busts their ass and goes all out, releasing tons of great 1st party games,  there are still going to be lull periods where the development teams are stretched too thin, busy on 3DS software, tied up with bigger projects, etc. This is when third parties NEED to step in. If they don't, we're simply going to be looking at another N64, Gamecube, and (to an extent), Wii library where there are brief periods of plentiful quality games dispersed amongst long periods of droughts. Nintendo doesn't have the sheer numbers or manpower that Sony's studio has, and unless they intend to seriously upgrade, third parties are key to fill in the gaps.

This is on Nintendo to push for their support. I don't care how much third parties hate you, or how much they hated Wii, or their fear of their titles getting crushed by Nintendo games. You do EVERYTHING in your power to get more plentiful, and more importantly, more QUALITY third party games. Buy studios, offer money, push advertising, work closely with studios, make development as easy as possible on your platform. Hell, buy them a steak and lobster dinner if that's what it takes. Wii U NEEDS stronger third party support, or I fear the Wii sales numbers will be the absolute ceiling for Wii U success, and more likely than not, an unreachable goal.

While Wii at least got the quantity of third party games unlike the N64 and Gamecube, it was lacking in the quality. Wii U will need both in order to have the surge of success Wii had, along with the greater longevity of the HD consoles.


In short, we´re all still waiting for "the next SNES" :)

When the Wii started its sales domination back in 2007/2008, for a moment I thought there was a good chance it´d become 'the next SNES'...it never happened, we all know.

The DS is the closest thing to a 'SNES 2', though I´d rather have it as a home console since I don´t like handhelds.


+1!

I'm still waiting for the next SNES, the next nintendo system that will have alot of third party support! Hopefully the Wii-U will be that!

Why did people assume that Wii was going to be the next SNES??? The system was not powerful enough to run any of the games that the 3rd parties were making for the HDs, so common sense should dictate that Wii was going to miss out on some games. or at least get different versions. Thats what I thought anyway.  Wii U has a much better chance of becoming SNES 2, but even then i dont think that will happen. SNES did have alot of 3rd party exclusive software, which I doubt Wii U or anyone will get. Nope multiplatform is where this is heading. Unless Ninty is going to do some serious moneyhatting. 

Multiplatform is fine, doesnt need to be complete exclusives. I just hope Wii-U will have as much third party support as the Sony/MS consoles.

I just meant in relation to SNES, it had a lot of 3rd party exclusives. Something I think is going away in general. but hey, I want everyone to get everything. I think 3rd party exclusives are stupid.



Brilliant PR. At least Nintendo admits that they are run by morons (unintentionally though).



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Each competitor would kill to be able to do what Nintendo does, sell enough 1st party to survive and be majorly successful pretty much irrelevant of third party sales.

But its not enough at times, as evidenced by the late term sales of Wii, so they gave third parties an open field to exploit. They didn't take advantage, and its their own fault.



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I'm convinced the line up will be so strong I'll get it as soon as I can.



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Stupid troll post. If the OP lived up to it's title, then it would have listed the 1st and 3rd party launch games. All we got is a corporate press release.

Sorry to burst the bubble, the Wii U is going to do just fine. It will be what many Nintendo fans who play their PS3 or Xbox 360 wanted from Nintendo this generation. Will it have a game equivalent to Goldeneye for the N64 where it is the best in it's genre? I don't know, but I would not be surprised as Nintendo is the only video game maker who is fully invested, 120% in living to see the next generation.

The Wii U launch will be fine. As for my reaction to the OP, I don't know.



Lord Ciansworth said:
glimmer_of_hope said:
Dear GOD....when has Nintendo EVER released a console with an enormous price tag.

NES $199.99
SNES $199.99
N64 $199.99
Game Cube $199.99
Wii $249.99

So people honestly think Nintendo is going to jump to $600. Use common sense people, Nintendo doesn't roll like that. They have always made things affordable. Just more Nintendo hatred.

Not quite though. When adjusted for inflation, for comparison with today's market, Nintendo's hardware launch prices look like this:

NES (1985) - $242 *($99)
SNES (1991) - $396 *($199)
N64 (1996) - $333 *($199)
NGC (2001) - $281 *($199)
Wii (2006) - $296 *($249)

As I've pointed out on numerous threads, the SNES and N64 launch prices establish that, historically, Nintendo has certainly been willing to launch consoles around the $350 - $400 window.

*Original USA launch prices.
** Long term USA inflation figure of 3.5% used for calculations.

Even with those numbers, it's still far from $600 like people are trying to run with.



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glimmer_of_hope said:
Lord Ciansworth said:
glimmer_of_hope said:
Dear GOD....when has Nintendo EVER released a console with an enormous price tag.

NES $199.99
SNES $199.99
N64 $199.99
Game Cube $199.99
Wii $249.99

So people honestly think Nintendo is going to jump to $600. Use common sense people, Nintendo doesn't roll like that. They have always made things affordable. Just more Nintendo hatred.

Not quite though. When adjusted for inflation, for comparison with today's market, Nintendo's hardware launch prices look like this:

NES (1985) - $242 *($99)
SNES (1991) - $396 *($199)
N64 (1996) - $333 *($199)
NGC (2001) - $281 *($199)
Wii (2006) - $296 *($249)

As I've pointed out on numerous threads, the SNES and N64 launch prices establish that, historically, Nintendo has certainly been willing to launch consoles around the $350 - $400 window.

*Original USA launch prices.
** Long term USA inflation figure of 3.5% used for calculations.

Even with those numbers, it's still far from $600 like people are trying to run with.

That's a resonable price, but as he said not anywhere near what people were freaking out over.



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