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Alby_da_Wolf on 29 November 2011
The Fury said:
Carl2291 said:
You would find that there are a LOT of people in the UK who share the same thoughts as her, it's just she actually had the balls to speak her mind...

The Government doesn't like you having your own thoughts or making your own decisions though, so that gets stopped straight away. I think it's shitty what she said, I think it's shitty that she did it in front of her child like that, I think it's shit she isn't allowed to speak her mind.

A lot of people have a lot of views. I don't think air shows are a good thing, they have caused numerous deaths and injuries over the years and I speak vocally about this, it's my freedom to do so but in speaking about this view I am not harming anyone. Being racist is something else entirely. This woman as suggested by others in this thread wasn't using immigrants as an example, she was racist, using black community as an example mainly, many (most) of whom were born, lived and worked here for longer then she has.

She got arrested because she was racist, not because she spoke her mind.

She's a nasty, angry, xenophobic bitch, but she could be acquitted of racism charges and even compensated for unjust arrest and detention. It could even be a planned show, didn't anybody notice that for all that rage she had a suspiciously careful choice of words? She said "Blacks
ain't English, ain't British", but a good lawyer could claim she was simply referring to the ethnicities being distinct, and the only proper insult she uttered is "f*ing", that's rude but very generic, not racial, while she never implied badness or inferiority of Africans or Polish, just "f*ing" (I'm quite sure for whole decennia after the end of WWII Germans were commonly referred to by Brits with far worse epithets than "f*ing").



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Andrespetmonkey on 29 November 2011
leatherhat said:
Spedfrom said:
I feel so sad for the poor kid. Just sitting there on his mother's lap and having to be an indirect victim of her raging stupid rant. Hopefully her influence on him won't amount to very much.

This is good, however: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/11/28/woman-arrested-over-racist-rant-in-my-tram-experience-youtube-video-115875-23595377/


How is arresting someone for speaking their mind a "good" thing?

Racial abuse (hate crime), disturbing the peace. An arrest seems justified to me.



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The_Joker_Product on 29 November 2011

Shes right, ethnic minorities are everything thats wrong with UK now. Those London riots where Police shot a black drug dealer and then blacks used it as an excuse to cause trouble, if you ever saw it on the TV you could see that most of these people involved in the rioting werent white.

If the police shot a White drug dealer, white people wouldnt care but other races just arnt the same way. Whenever i hear about a stabbing or a shooting on TV, in my mind i'll immediatley think "It was a black" then they show the guy and its always a black.

Any terrorist attacks in UK arent from white people. A couple of white guys killed a black guy and it was all over the news that it was a racist attack...but whenever a black group beats a white person then they never state the colour of the attackers.

Thats done on purpose the government know what non whites are like, they are very careful in what they say about them. They wouldnt want to say a Black duo killed a white person in a racist attack, because knowing how they work theyd start another riot.

People dont want them here, they cause a huge amount of the crime despite being less than 10% of the population.



The_Joker_Product on 29 November 2011

See even the thing about her getting arrested, if a black did the exact same thing, he would never get arrested for that. All those muslims burned poppys when white people were showing respect for those who died in WW2 and they werent arrested.

But a white woman tells the truth and shes arrested, of course she would be though, if she wasnt blacks may start riots because she wasnt punished.



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chocoloco on 29 November 2011

I did not understand a single word. Is that English?

As an American I have no problem with Europeans wanting to keep so many foriegners out. Acting that crazy in a public place though is not to be tolerated, but to serve any jail time is pretty bad. People rarely say what they think sometimes because it is politically incorrect, but I have no problem with Europeans wanting to preserve their long standing culture.



highwaystar101 on 29 November 2011
The_Joker_Product said:
See even the thing about her getting arrested, if a black did the exact same thing, he would never get arrested for that. All those muslims burned poppys when white people were showing respect for those who died in WW2 and they werent arrested.

But a white woman tells the truth and shes arrested, of course she would be though, if she wasnt blacks may start riots because she wasnt punished.


I'm sorry, but, what?

Since when has the poppy been a symbol of being white? I hate that the poppy is being hijacked as a symbol of the "native residents" of Britain. It's not. Flat out not! 

The poppy is a symbol of the freedoms we have that were fought for by our forefathers. Many non-white Britons as well as first/second generation immigrants respect what the poppy represents. They enjoy the freedoms our forefathers fought for too, and you'll find most of them have a direct respect for them because of that. It's not a "white" symbol, it's a national symbol.



highwaystar101 on 29 November 2011

This woman's not a criminal, she's just an idiot. She doesn't deserve to be arrested. But if she has got a problem, this is not how she should deal with it otherwise her problems will never be resolved!

As for people saying she has a problem with immigration, I don't think that's true. Her stance is pretty much "non-white people can't be British". She repeatedly says things along the lines of "Brown people can't be English".

That's not true now, is it? I know plenty of non-white people and white immigrants who are British. She never mentions recent immigrants (apart from maybe a brief reference to polish people). Her focus is clearly more racist than anything else.



TadpoleJackson on 29 November 2011
highwaystar101 said:

I'm sorry, but, what?

Since when has the poppy been a symbol of being white? I hate that the poppy is being hijacked as a symbol of the "native residents" of Britain. It's not. Flat out not! 

The poppy is a symbol of the freedoms we have that were fought for by our forefathers. Many non-white Britons as well as first/second generation immigrants respect what the poppy represents. They enjoy the freedoms our forefathers fought for too, and you'll find most of them have a direct respect for them because of that. It's not a "white" symbol, it's a national symbol.


What's a poppy? :3 

I assume it doesn't have to do with Opium...



BrayanA on 29 November 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
BrayanA said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
TadpoleJackson said:
SecondWar said:

And TadpoleJackson, so to you, racism isn't an offence worth dealing with?


Not by the police, no 

M.U.G.E.N said:

it was racist and disrupting public peace.

If you read the tweet it specifically mentions the "law" she broke. Disturbing the peace is another law in the UK. 

radishhead said:

Did you watch the video? I hope she stays in prison for a long time - but our court system is so soft, she'll probably only get a few months

Yes, I did. A few months is way too long for being a jackass. A few hours is way too long.

well so she was arrested on racial outburst charges alone it seems..still deserves it imho BUT I do agree few months is way way too harsh. A day or so would have done just fine. Didn't know about that tid bit before so thanks for telling me.

@zuvuyeay: no one is saying it won't happen anywhere else tho, I mean I for example said it outright at the very start that I see it over here as well. But she was being racist. at least the way she came off was racist. She wasn't saying illegal immigrants should gtfo or something..she was specifically targeting people with different skin colors. Blacks..browns..etc. How is that not being a racist? It's not being foul mouthed that got her in hot waters.

Not true! She was not specifically targeting people with different skin colors. Only blacks or browns. Listen again. She was targeting polish people too. Polish are white if you don't know and there is a lot of polish immigrants in UK. So what she is targeting is exactly immigrants, no matter their color.


ugh she told that lady who told her that she is british that she aint cuz she is black >_> and blacks and browns can be citizens of Britain too yeah? I don't think the polish bit (which is mentioned just once mind you, rest of it were a rant of blacks and browns) is what got her in deep shit.

Check it again!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/11/28/woman-arrested-over-racist-rant-in-my-tram-experience-youtube-video-115875-23595377/

Word black -3 times. None of them with the word f***ing in front of it.

Word brown -1 time. With the word f***ing in front of it.

Word polish -1 time. With the word f***ing in front of it.

And yes technicaly blacks, browns and none british whites can be citizens of Britain, but most of them are not ethnic british. The same way if you live in the teritory of Indian reservation will not make you ethnic indian.