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zuvuyeay on 28 November 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
TadpoleJackson said:
SecondWar said:

And TadpoleJackson, so to you, racism isn't an offence worth dealing with?


Not by the police, no 

M.U.G.E.N said:

it was racist and disrupting public peace.

If you read the tweet it specifically mentions the "law" she broke. Disturbing the peace is another law in the UK. 

radishhead said:

Did you watch the video? I hope she stays in prison for a long time - but our court system is so soft, she'll probably only get a few months

Yes, I did. A few months is way too long for being a jackass. A few hours is way too long.

well so she was arrested on racial outburst charges alone it seems..still deserves it imho BUT I do agree few months is way way too harsh. A day or so would have done just fine. Didn't know about that tid bit before so thanks for telling me.

@zuvuyeay: no one is saying it won't happen anywhere else tho, I mean I for example said it outright at the very start that I see it over here as well. But she was being racist. at least the way she came off was racist. She wasn't saying illegal immigrants should gtfo or something..she was specifically targeting people with different skin colors. Blacks..browns..etc. How is that not being a racist? It's not being foul mouthed that got her in hot waters.


i thought she was having a rant on the train about there being too many foreigners in britain,its her point of view

she got shouted down by another english lady and some foriegners,arrested,put on you tube and now we are watching it online

more xenophobic /culture clash than racist but hey i'm probably wrong,she is certainly going to wish she kept her trap shut that is for sure

 

 



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TadpoleJackson on 28 November 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:


 . . .  1.and you are wrong, she didn't target specific individuals, her remarks were aimed at whole ethnic groups and people of other skin color in general.

2.let's not try and color her as an innocent victim here.

3. She is mostly to blame for her current situation.

1. No, she targetted the black people on the bus because the other passenger was talking to her. Before hand she was talking about everyone that wasn't British. Without watching the video again only one comment really comes off as racist. She was being Xenophobic with a touch of racism

2. I'm not. 

3. No, it's Britian's stupid laws that put her in this situation 



M.U.G.E.N on 28 November 2011
zuvuyeay said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
TadpoleJackson said:
SecondWar said:

And TadpoleJackson, so to you, racism isn't an offence worth dealing with?


Not by the police, no 

M.U.G.E.N said:

it was racist and disrupting public peace.

If you read the tweet it specifically mentions the "law" she broke. Disturbing the peace is another law in the UK. 

radishhead said:

Did you watch the video? I hope she stays in prison for a long time - but our court system is so soft, she'll probably only get a few months

Yes, I did. A few months is way too long for being a jackass. A few hours is way too long.

well so she was arrested on racial outburst charges alone it seems..still deserves it imho BUT I do agree few months is way way too harsh. A day or so would have done just fine. Didn't know about that tid bit before so thanks for telling me.

@zuvuyeay: no one is saying it won't happen anywhere else tho, I mean I for example said it outright at the very start that I see it over here as well. But she was being racist. at least the way she came off was racist. She wasn't saying illegal immigrants should gtfo or something..she was specifically targeting people with different skin colors. Blacks..browns..etc. How is that not being a racist? It's not being foul mouthed that got her in hot waters.


i thought she was having a rant on the train about there being too many foreigners in britain,its her point of view

she got shouted down by another english lady and some foriegners,arrested,put on you tube and now we are watching it online

more xenophobic /culture clash than racist but hey i'm probably wrong,she is certainly going to wish she kept her trap shut that is for sure

 

 


oh rants are completely fine imho..I don't mind if people just vent a bit. but pointing out skin color etc is just plain stupid and racist. she wasn't eactly in the calm mood either you know, she started shouting and got shouting in return. She was addressed in a much nicer fashion before she went F U on everyone right? and wait what is this 'english' lady bit about. The black lady was british too you know. Just because she isn't white doesn't mean she was not a citizen. So like i said the issue was not taking aim at illegal immigrants but all who are not white in general and claiming they are not british.



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M.U.G.E.N on 28 November 2011
TadpoleJackson said:
M.U.G.E.N said:


 . . .  1.and you are wrong, she didn't target specific individuals, her remarks were aimed at whole ethnic groups and people of other skin color in general.

2.let's not try and color her as an innocent victim here.

3. She is mostly to blame for her current situation.

1. No, she targetted the black people on the bus because the other passenger was talking to her. Before hand she was talking about everyone that wasn't British. Without watching the video again only one comment really comes off as racist. She was being Xenophobic with a touch of racism

2. I'm not. 

3. No, it's Britian's stupid laws that put her in this situation 


1. nope she started off with 'black people'. and what about the 'brown people'? wtf did they do? she was talking under this impression that unless you are white you are not british which is absolute BS. her whole rant was racists not just one comment. I mean hell when the lady told her hey I'm British too she is like no you are black not british. I mean wtf? :S I just don't understand that line of thinking

2. good

3. Well the punishment was harsh but it was due imho and yeah she really is to blame for her own actions.



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SecondWar on 28 November 2011
NotStan said:
SecondWar said:
NotStan said:
SecondWar said:
NotStan said:

Britain at it's finest, 'fraid there are a lot more close minded morons like that roaming the street and supporting her right to be vocal in such manner (Looking at my Facebook news feed is enough proof - where people keep claiming that justice system is skewed towards immigrants just because muslims don't get prosecuted for burning poppies etc but the British get prison sentence for spray painting mosque - again, saying that without knowing the full story).

Waiting for media like the Sun and Daily Mail to brain wash the rest of their target audience tomorrow and blow this around on the minorities.

Actually they did, also dont see why people shouldn't get sent down for spray painting a mosque. And TadpoleJackson, so to you, racism isn't an offence worth dealing with?

Well there you go, shows how much research those retards do when posting those retarded statuses. I am ashamed to have them as friends, a close friend of mine did it.. I almost punched him next time I saw him.

Not sure I'm following you, what 'retarded statuses' are you talking about? Also, if you want research about the poppy burning charges, here are two links about it. One about the muslim extremist group and another about some Northern Irish teenagers who also did it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11987236

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15575615

On your second point, can't say I can blame you for feeling that way.

This Status;

"IM DISGUSTED AT THIS COUNTRY!! In May 2010, Tohseef Shah spray painted a British War Memorial with "islam will dominate osama is coming" he was fined £50 & walked free from court. In November 2010, Emdadur Choudhury burned a Poppy during the 2mins silence. He too was given a £50 fine and walked free from court Today, 2 men have been sentenced to 12 months in prison for spray painting a Poppy on a mosque. Welcome to the Great British justice system. Disgusting.... Who's brave enough to Copy & Paste this!"

I can tell from my personal experience that the police in this country is fucked up, something happened within my family that is considerably more drastic than burning a fucking flower and they got away with it - on the account that they were native British.

Not actually heard about any of those three incidents before, but that is rather messed up. Sometimes the punishments handed out given people the impression they can effectively get away with it (this was the reasoning behind the harsher sentences handed out to the August rioters, and why if the leftist parties critising "Cameron's crackdown" would have had to deal with similar incidents in the not too distant future). 

Although, have I missed your point about this? Were you trying to say how the guy who wrote that didn't check his facts and was way off the mark?



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dr3b on 28 November 2011

I think A203D has said it best on here so far. She is the product of a broken system, and although it is not right, it isn't hard to see how her viewpoint could have developed over time given the points A203D made.

And as it is so often said, we did not have the benefit of seeing what may have triggered this outburst.

 



mrstickball on 28 November 2011

Really? This woman got arrested for that?

That is the real story. I guess Britain doesn't like free speech, even if its stupid speech. If the country continues to suppress speech, then that will kill the country far quicker and more thorough than one woman's insane rant.



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PullusPardus on 28 November 2011

There is some truth in what she says though, have anyone been to Edgware Road or Marble Arch before?
none of the immigrants knows any shame at all.

but these immigrants aren't the cause of the problem , the problem here is the british government who is so against its own people that its funny, they treat immigrants like gods, while the local british people get no love at all, they need to set their priorities straight

having that woman jailed for that isn't really a good move on their part, will i be arrested if i made a youtube video saying how much i hate someone ? , sure its public, but its just words, no one was hurt and everyone was ignoring the bitch, i've seen drunkies spew much worse shit and no one arrested them, i guess they just wanted to cause a scene here.



RedInker on 28 November 2011

People like her make me ashamed. Her views are outdated.



phinch1 on 28 November 2011
brendude13 said:

Shit, only just decided to watch that video.

That accent, eurrghh.

I agree with her though, Britain is nothing these days, but it's people like her who are to blame.


No, thats where your wrong, yeah ok she Wen't about her argument the wrong way, completely the wrong way but it's because this country has no back bone now
With this whole political correct madness, that we can't fly the English flag incase we "Offend others" thats we can't even called christmas Fucking christmas anymore becuase it might offend others, we have to called it the  festive season now, its a joke, all because we are afraid of hurting minorities, jesus christ its our country if they don't like it lump it, i wouldnt dare go anywhere else and expect another country to change their ways for Us

This lady has a back bone, exactly what a lot of people are missing these days

please go on and explain how its people like a working white mother who stands up for whats she believes in has ruined the industry of this once Great producing country?