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Alby_da_Wolf said:
The Fury said:
Carl2291 said:
You would find that there are a LOT of people in the UK who share the same thoughts as her, it's just she actually had the balls to speak her mind...

The Government doesn't like you having your own thoughts or making your own decisions though, so that gets stopped straight away. I think it's shitty what she said, I think it's shitty that she did it in front of her child like that, I think it's shit she isn't allowed to speak her mind.

A lot of people have a lot of views. I don't think air shows are a good thing, they have caused numerous deaths and injuries over the years and I speak vocally about this, it's my freedom to do so but in speaking about this view I am not harming anyone. Being racist is something else entirely. This woman as suggested by others in this thread wasn't using immigrants as an example, she was racist, using black community as an example mainly, many (most) of whom were born, lived and worked here for longer then she has.

She got arrested because she was racist, not because she spoke her mind.

She's a nasty, angry, xenophobic bitch, but she could be acquitted of racism charges and even compensated for unjust arrest and detention. It could even be a planned show, didn't anybody notice that for all that rage she had a suspiciously careful choice of words? She said "Blacks
ain't English, ain't British", but a good lawyer could claim she was simply referring to the ethnicities being distinct, and the only proper insult she uttered is "f*ing", that's rude but very generic, not racial, while she never implied badness or inferiority of Africans or Polish, just "f*ing" (I'm quite sure for whole decennia after the end of WWII Germans were commonly referred to by Brits with far worse epithets than "f*ing").

I  don't mind is she is aquited as the statement has already been made, be a 'xenophobic bitch' in public and get arrested. I, as a white British citizen, do not want people like her in my country. 

The WWII reference was a bit weird btw, not in context at all in this instant and completely different situation.



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leatherhat said:
Spedfrom said:
I feel so sad for the poor kid. Just sitting there on his mother's lap and having to be an indirect victim of her raging stupid rant. Hopefully her influence on him won't amount to very much.

This is good, however: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/11/28/woman-arrested-over-racist-rant-in-my-tram-experience-youtube-video-115875-23595377/


How is arresting someone for speaking their mind a "good" thing?


Are you out of your mind? There's a line between speaking your mind or being an outright bigot where very hurtful insults are thrown directly at people. She crossed the line into the latter. And even worse, she did it while holding her son as a shield from harm. She is disgusting and the kid deserves a better mother.



phinch1 said:
brendude13 said:

Shit, only just decided to watch that video.

That accent, eurrghh.

I agree with her though, Britain is nothing these days, but it's people like her who are to blame.


No, thats where your wrong, yeah ok she Wen't about her argument the wrong way, completely the wrong way but it's because this country has no back bone now
With this whole political correct madness, that we can't fly the English flag incase we "Offend others" thats we can't even called christmas Fucking christmas anymore becuase it might offend others, we have to called it the  festive season now, its a joke, all because we are afraid of hurting minorities, jesus christ its our country if they don't like it lump it, i wouldnt dare go anywhere else and expect another country to change their ways for Us

This lady has a back bone, exactly what a lot of people are missing these days

please go on and explain how its people like a working white mother who stands up for whats she believes in has ruined the industry of this once Great producing country?

Well said!

Coming from the UK i do feel that this woman was and is an embarrassment in the way she went about expressing her views and being blatantly racist in doing so but with all the people being allowed entry into this country and being able to claim all benefits under the sun is bankrupting us, fair enough it isnt them to blame completely but because of them, like she said, Britain is in the shit now!



Player1x3 said:
English have only themselves to blame for the demise of their once extremely powerful country. They let their country be led by bunch of left wing liberal pussies. England needs another strong conservative leader like Sir Winston Churchill who actually had balls to deal with foreigners like a true leader. Its too bad to see civilization that ruled half the world coming to an such a agonazing and humiliating end...and the worst part is, they did it to themselves


amen to that,

the politicians have let this country down and are so out of touch with a large percent of the white english population we are only heading for trouble on the streets ,it is unavoidable,the lefties will come on and bleat and whine about everything being great,how multiculturalism works and that they regularly visit all families of different cultures for lunch and dinner and mix all the time and marry their daughters off to non english speaking families on a weekly basis,but obviously they don't

Labour are the worst they actually tried to social engineer this country for their vote as they know when scotland secedes they are finished as a party and they want immos and foreigners to fill the void,labour also want more people on good benefits and not working as that means they vote for labnour,you cannot imagine the pain labour has caused england,i hope they never get back in power they are worst of both worlds,thankfully milliband aand balls are complete losers and the unions are striking as soon as the tories are in govt,surprise surprise,so labour politicians have to keep quiet or they become even more annoying

all the media and lefties go on about is muslims,rights,multi cultrualism,racism,minorities blah blah they seem to forget white people have a history and background too with feelings,thoughts and their own perspective of how things should be but they get completely ignored until one day that is,it seems the tipping point in england is never ending but it must be getting close



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The Fury said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
The Fury said:
Carl2291 said:
You would find that there are a LOT of people in the UK who share the same thoughts as her, it's just she actually had the balls to speak her mind...

The Government doesn't like you having your own thoughts or making your own decisions though, so that gets stopped straight away. I think it's shitty what she said, I think it's shitty that she did it in front of her child like that, I think it's shit she isn't allowed to speak her mind.

A lot of people have a lot of views. I don't think air shows are a good thing, they have caused numerous deaths and injuries over the years and I speak vocally about this, it's my freedom to do so but in speaking about this view I am not harming anyone. Being racist is something else entirely. This woman as suggested by others in this thread wasn't using immigrants as an example, she was racist, using black community as an example mainly, many (most) of whom were born, lived and worked here for longer then she has.

She got arrested because she was racist, not because she spoke her mind.

She's a nasty, angry, xenophobic bitch, but she could be acquitted of racism charges and even compensated for unjust arrest and detention. It could even be a planned show, didn't anybody notice that for all that rage she had a suspiciously careful choice of words? She said "Blacks
ain't English, ain't British", but a good lawyer could claim she was simply referring to the ethnicities being distinct, and the only proper insult she uttered is "f*ing", that's rude but very generic, not racial, while she never implied badness or inferiority of Africans or Polish, just "f*ing" (I'm quite sure for whole decennia after the end of WWII Germans were commonly referred to by Brits with far worse epithets than "f*ing").

1. I  don't mind is she is aquited as the statement has already been made, be a 'xenophobic bitch' in public and get arrested. I, as a white British citizen, do not want people like her in my country. 

2. The WWII reference was a bit weird btw, not in context at all in this instant and completely different situation.

1. My point  was that it could be a rant staged on purpose to stir a public controversy.

2. About this, I just wanted to point out that, not only in UK, it happens here in Italy too, and I suppose also in the rest of the world, it looks like you are supposed to be more politically correct towards some ethnic and religious groups than others. For example nobody cares about offending Christians or Buddhists, while almost everybody is careful to avoid offending Muslims. Jews can be offended only if they are from Israel, and in that case Italian lefties find it almost mandatory to offend them. Everybody finds acceptable to hate China due to large scale death penalty, outsourcing and loss of workplaces in the West.  Only blacks can call "n*" another black or themselves. I find all this in the best case ridiculous, in the worst hypocritical and in some cases cowardly too.



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The_Joker_Product said:
highwaystar101 said:
The_Joker_Product said:
See even the thing about her getting arrested, if a black did the exact same thing, he would never get arrested for that. All those muslims burned poppys when white people were showing respect for those who died in WW2 and they werent arrested.

But a white woman tells the truth and shes arrested, of course she would be though, if she wasnt blacks may start riots because she wasnt punished.


I'm sorry, but, what?

Since when has the poppy been a symbol of being white? I hate that the poppy is being hijacked as a symbol of the "native residents" of Britain. It's not. Flat out not! 

The poppy is a symbol of the freedoms we have that were fought for by our forefathers. Many non-white Britons as well as first/second generation immigrants respect what the poppy represents. They enjoy the freedoms our forefathers fought for too, and you'll find most of them have a direct respect for them because of that. It's not a "white" symbol, it's a national symbol.

No you misunderstand, there was that incident, im sure you've heard of it you can watch it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cetGUdada8g

It was remembrance day there was a bunch of people in London paying their respects they all appeared to be white. Then all these muslims starting burning poppies and chanting british soldiers burn in hell.

Now from what i heard one of the muslims was fined £50 for doing that but this woman on the tram has to go to prison or something, thats not fair, thats not equal, its this kind of thing why most people these other races.

 

I know of the incident and I was as shocked as anyone else. But what I mean is why even specify white people? I would be amazed if that entire crowd was white. Why not just say "people" and not make it sound like you're trying to racially polarise the issue?

And this woman is going to prison? Where did you get that information from? I can't find news anywhere that she has been sentenced. If they have sentenced her, then they did it bloomin' quickly. You say it's not equal, but in reality you don't know because she hasn't even been to court yet.

It's true, they have kept her overnight in a jail cell because of the profile of the case (i.e. for her own safety), but it would be incredibly unlikely that they would give her an actual prison sentence when she does go to court. I'd be willing to bet she would be given a fine at worst, like the muslims who burned the poppies were.



TadpoleJackson said:
highwaystar101 said:

I'm sorry, but, what?

Since when has the poppy been a symbol of being white? I hate that the poppy is being hijacked as a symbol of the "native residents" of Britain. It's not. Flat out not! 

The poppy is a symbol of the freedoms we have that were fought for by our forefathers. Many non-white Britons as well as first/second generation immigrants respect what the poppy represents. They enjoy the freedoms our forefathers fought for too, and you'll find most of them have a direct respect for them because of that. It's not a "white" symbol, it's a national symbol.


What's a poppy? :3 

I assume it doesn't have to do with Opium...


If you want it to be, sure, why not?



She's obviously on some heavy drugs. I suspect cocaine.



phinch1 said:


1) With this whole political correct madness, that we can't fly the English flag incase we "Offend others"

2) We can't even called christmas Fucking christmas anymore becuase it might offend others, we have to called it the  festive season now, its a joke.

1) We can, because we do. Go out during a sporting event and the St George's cross is everywhere. In every bar and in every home. It's sad, because the government even had to make an offical statement saying that it isn't banned a few years ago due to this misconception.

2) You can still call Christmas Christmas, nobody is stopping you. This is just something that seems to have stemmed out from local governments giving the period a banner term to cover a range of religious holidays around that period. Of course, the tabloids pick that up twist it, tell people the half truth and assert that it is banned. Stewart Lee explains this one well.





highwaystar101 said:

2) You can still call Christmas Christmas, nobody is stopping you. This is just something that seems to have stemmed out from local governments giving the period a banner term to cover a range of religious holidays around that period. Of course, the tabloids pick that up twist it, tell people the half truth and assert that it is banned. Stewrat Lee explains this one well. 

I watched the video, and whether or not anyone has actually banned Christmas, the question remains: what the fuck is that guy wearing around his neck?