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S____M____C____C on 08 June 2011
badgenome said:
S____M____C____C said:
badgenome said:
I agree. If every game isn't aimed directly at me and my demographic with laser like focus, I become cranky and often soil myself in rage.

That's not my point.

My point is that I want a hardcore system, I don't care if there are one or two casual titles on it.

It seems we'll get casual systems, with some hardcore games on them. I don't want that! 

I'm not sure what you're angry about. Basically all Nintendo showed was a funny controller and a bunch of PS360 games, so even they are acknowledging that they can't afford to ignore that demo anymore. What exactly is a "hardcore" system? Something with a traditional controller?

I want a system that:

- Has a great focus on core games. All the core players like this system

- Has a good online service

- Looks neat. Preferably black with blue/red colouring. Shouldn't look like something you could find in a young girl's bedroom

- No motion control options. Just a good, solid controller that is easy to use and works well

- Has very good graphics

.....No-one seems to focus on the core anymore the same way that Xbox and PS3 did. Maybe I'm just a idealist, but I don't like the way all the companies are trying to appeal to both, or moreso the casual audience. What I think we need is a company who's target market is solely the core.



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S____M____C____C on 08 June 2011
endimion said:
Hmmm I agree that E3 wasn't really hot... but come on no core gaming available anymore..... when was the last time you entered a game stop ????? XB and PS never had that huge of a library with tons of quality core games..... I can see why peeps complain about the E3 this year but saying that the HD consols are shifting casual with no core gaming just because you don't see 20 min gameplay trailers of an exclusive FPS, RPG, or action adventure game is a big stretch.....

if you have time and money to play everything core to come this year and in the years to come on day one you have to tell me your secret.....

Now is ok.

It is the future I'm worried about



spenderzz on 08 June 2011
S____M____C____C said:
badgenome said:
S____M____C____C said:
badgenome said:
I agree. If every game isn't aimed directly at me and my demographic with laser like focus, I become cranky and often soil myself in rage.

That's not my point.

My point is that I want a hardcore system, I don't care if there are one or two casual titles on it.

It seems we'll get casual systems, with some hardcore games on them. I don't want that! 

I'm not sure what you're angry about. Basically all Nintendo showed was a funny controller and a bunch of PS360 games, so even they are acknowledging that they can't afford to ignore that demo anymore. What exactly is a "hardcore" system? Something with a traditional controller?

I want a system that:

- Has a great focus on core games. All the core players like this system

- Has a good online service

- Looks neat. Preferably black with blue/red colouring. Shouldn't look like something you could find in a young girl's bedroom

- No motion control options. Just a good, solid controller that is easy to use and works well

- Has very good graphics

.....No-one seems to focus on the core anymore the same way that Xbox and PS3 did. Maybe I'm just a idealist, but I don't like the way all the companies are trying to appeal to both, or moreso the casual audience. What I think we need is a company who's target market is solely the core.

- Both 360 and PS3 have good online services, and although Nintendo didn't talk about it I assume Wii U will have a decent online service as well.

- If you care what a console looks like, I don't even know what to say about that.

- As long as a regular controller is still available and supported, not wanting a motion controller to even exist is just childish and dumb.

- 360, PS3, and Wii U all have very good graphics.

It's ridiculous how short people's memories are.  PS2 had, by far, the biggest library of core games ever to exist on a system, and I'd guess that the ratio of core games to casual games was 1:3, if not less.  PS2 was loaded to the gills with casual games, had a huge focus on casual games, and sold such an insane number of units precisely because it offered casual games as well as awesome core games.  Having casual games on your system not only does not automatically mean there will be less core games, it kind of ensures that there will be more core games in the long run because it drives the install base and generates revenue.



Acevil on 08 June 2011

I only dislike the direction microsoft is moving in. The other two I am alright with.



 

endimion on 08 June 2011

I'm not.... technology is just at a turning point.... but in the future casual, core, everybody will be the same and devs know it.... we are the grandpa of tomorrow..... motion controll will be everywhere, voice recognition, full body scan, enhanced vision/display, touch screens, 3D virtual reality..... look back 20 years what we had to play with.... now imagine 20 years in the future.... I have no worries about core gaming.... or just gaming... you'll be able to live your game experience one day....



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badgenome on 08 June 2011
S____M____C____C said:

I want a system that:

- Has a great focus on core games. All the core players like this system

Thanks to fanboyism and whatnot, that hasn't been the case for any system ever.

- Has a good online service

...and yet you like Sony? (Sorry. It had to be said.)

- Looks neat. Preferably black with blue/red colouring. Shouldn't look like something you could find in a young girl's bedroom

Neither the 360 nor the Wii U (the console, not the goofball controller) look girly at all, IMO.

- No motion control options. Just a good, solid controller that is easy to use and works well

What's wrong with options? And does the Sixaxis piss you off?

- Has very good graphics

PS360 have good graphics, yes? Wii U will have better graphics still, and PS4 and Nextbox will surely trump it.

.....No-one seems to focus on the core anymore the same way that Xbox and PS3 did. Maybe I'm just a idealist, but I don't like the way all the companies are trying to appeal to both, or moreso the casual audience. What I think we need is a company who's target market is solely the core

You basically admitted in your OP that this isn't economically viable, though. So I don't see what the problem is with the companies targeting teh casualz as long as they're bringing the games you want to play. I mean, honestly, I don't understand why you're unhappy. Maybe I just have a wider taste in games than you do or something, but even excluding anything that incorporates Moves, there just isn't enough time in the day for me to play every PS3 game I would like to.





VetteDude on 08 June 2011

I feel that Sony won't abandon Core, and Microsoft won't totally either. Sony carved themselves a nice little reputation of having the brute force system (and I don't mean brute force hacks, I mean powerful) and PS Vita goes right along with that reputation. I expect PS4 to be the most powerful of the 8th gen, and have a nice manly black case. LMAO. And Sony doesn't push Move as much as MS does Kinect, and Move rocks for a core gamer like me. Still has a controller, not just waving your arms. It works great for KZ3.



NiKKoM on 08 June 2011

Get a PC?

it has all what you need and we, as vgchartz, will give shio with it for free!



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

Rainbird on 08 June 2011

An industry that is constantly evolving and trying out new control methods to help make games better and thus increase my enjoyment? How can I possibly despise it?



endimion on 08 June 2011
Acevil said:
I only dislike the direction microsoft is moving in. The other two I am alright with.

microsoft is moving in one direction and it's not about gaming it never was and never will.....it's shifting from your office to your home office and now to your living room and in your daily life..... they made that point clear 10 years ago when bill gates said the cellphone is the future

 

XB was never meant to compete purely on the game market it was a way to step in your media room and in the middle of your life because they knew that staying a software company exclusively was a dead end for them.... they try to find a point where you have to use them for something like it "was/is"the rule for PC

I have no worries about the nextbox blowing our minds out.... once again this is not about casual or core..... because in our day and age it's not just about gaming anymore..... good gaming experience is the basic, the strict minimum any system will have..... what will really make the difference it's all the other services....

 

much like smartphones today..... making calls is the least important thing now a days.... it's something all of them do....